Poll: Capships, abuse, input . . .

[n00bl3t]

So your the Yoda? that explains why you took it so personal. Well let me start by saying I'm sorry, "I'm sorry". My intention was not to target you and your role play skills. I did not post that because I was angry at you, in fact I have only seen this Yoda ship once or twice in passing. It seemed like a valid example at the time, but in hindsight it apparently wasn't. Also, I want you to know that I don't find my role play skills to be superior to anyone; I type slow and I don't splle well, some of the rp situations I create are half baked and lead to situations that make no sense, and sometimes I talk with these // to much.
That being said the motive for me wanting cap ships to be exclusively faction base is not fueled be personal vendetta against them or the people that fly them, and I am not upset the they "raped me". The reason I believe they should be exclusive to factions is because this will:
A) lower the amount of cap ships
B) This will boost faction participation
C) this will lesson the likely hood of oorp cap ships

I personally think Capital Ships should be rarer and their pilots should be held to a higher standard (but I also think the should be beefed up too). Battle Ships are not a dime a dozen, the are gargantuan machines of war whos momentum directly affects the history. When a Battleship goes down in battle it isn't some minor set back, it could quite possibly have shifted the tides of war a battle that will be known for ages to come. This is what I want to happen here.
PS: Nooblet, your avatar makes me dizzy

No, I am not Yoda.

If you find your role-play skills to be so non-god-like then how do you expect to do what is proper and set a proper role-play example? Frankly, I think you should go out and learn some more before you start making restrictions as to how others role-play.

Capital ships numbers are not that high. Faction participation is and should remain completely voluntary. I know for a fact that I will never join any OC faction. My first reason is the one some people will think of, my second is, I do not have the time to dedicate myself to an acceptable standard or the standard that the faction will demand.

It will, but it will also lessen the amount of good role-playing independent capital ships.

That is your interpretation of capital ship role-play. Do not force it down all our throats.

Complain to a biased Administrator.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[JIVA]

if battleships are to be restricted - EVERYONE should apply for one, including all the factions

and NO player ( faction, exclusive faction, non-factionized etc. ) should be treated better than any other player. - there should not be a "granted" license. - same standards for everyone. ( at the same time, they also shouldn t have it harder to set an example )

funny thing though....

the roleplayed ( ingame ) battleships are usually non-factionized ships, faction battleships are often shared and taken out when they are needed ( pvp ) - but they rarely roleplay just for the RP sake. ( doesn t apply to all factions )

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[Exsiled_one]

Depends on who is it... Sad fact is that you usually see an OPG capship out when there's need to take care of some other capshi. [RA] in o5 shooting at our smugglers with a OC bs. So when you see an osiris undock, shoot at that thing and yells "die, mwhahaha" its more of frustration coming from that BS pilot because RA is in o5, because we prolly pirated his trader 10 minutes ago.

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[Ceoran]

"wiping out" sounds like removing them without getting the money back. Give every battleship a chance to prove itself, might even get some of them to develop rp if they are about to loose their precious ships, but removing them would also remove the rp-based ships, and I'm not sure how many of them would do the job again to gather all that money.

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[RonG777]

How Often do you experience OORP Battleships?
Every time I play [ 10 ] ** [21.74%]
50 / 50 [ 10 ] ** [21.74%]
Seldom [ 21 ] ** [45.65%]
Never [ 5 ] ** [10.87%]
What OORP action do they do?
OORP Chat [ 19 ] ** [41.30%]
OORP attack / actions [ 15 ] ** [32.61%]
OORP equipment / locations [ 7 ] ** [15.22%]
Other / please specify [ 5 ] ** [10.87%]
If Admins were to make Battleships special requests, would you be willing to have all BS accounts wiped next MOD and everyone apply new?
Yes [ 15 ] ** [32.61%]
No [ 27 ] ** [58.70%]
Other - (Please Explain) [ 4 ] ** [8.70%]



First, I want to thank everyone for your help.
Based on the poll: . . .

1. Overall 43% of the community voted has OORP BS experience every time or every other time, while 56% has seldom to none . . (near a 50/50 split roughly)

2. OORP Action: Chat seems to be the biggest complaint, with actions or attack a close second. For me, I see about as much OORP chat with any ship in game, regardless of size.
Attacks and actions? While I do witness the same actions with other ships, I can understand the magnitude of a battleship opening fire on a small ship. I can also see the extra work involved for a group to muster up enough ships to attack a battleship That has been attacking, and or behaving OORP. (Of course this is after trying to communicate with the player and has failed) . The only thing that I can think of on this though, is that there is a good bit of other capitol ship classes that behave OORP that is difficult to defend from (battle cruisers, etc.).

As far as OORP equipment or locations? I feel that in most cases, a sanction report to the Admin team should take care of that.

The final question I asked.. If Admins were to make Battleships special requests, would you be willing to have all BS accounts wiped next MOD and everyone apply new? . .( Perhaps I should have put have put a little more thought in that one) . . .
33% would be willing to start over, while 59% would not . . This information has not drawn a good conclusion for me . .

Fist off, I do know know how many in this poll actually do own battleships . . (It is easy to say, "Yeah, take away the battleships" when you don't own one)
Second, most people who own them believe that they play that ship with good RP and should not have to prove themselves again . . (I can understand that) My question is, is it fair for a new player (or one who never owned a battleship) to stand before a committee or group when others have not?

There was some great ideas posted in this thread as well as others that anyone can still obtain their battleship, but, if they behave in an OORP fashion too much, then they can be reported to Admins to determine if they should continue to fly that ship . . .

This seems to me seems like the best solution to this problem. Though it seems like it will increase the work load to the Admin team, I can't see any other solution at this time other than simply trying to communicate with the OORP player or ignoring them . . .

Either way it goes, it will take a lot of work from Admins AND players to work with newer players, who may not completely understand RP, and help guide them in the right direction . . There will always be the odd one out there that will never learn, or only try to disrupt the game (for those, there is nothing we can do other than take their ship away, I feel)

In conclusion, Over the years I have played here, and other Discovery servers before here, I find that the VAST majority of players (deep down inside) are good people, and just want to have fun. . If we take the time to help, and have fun with this game, then perhaps we don't need to add more rules and create more work to a game that we all should enjoy . .

Thank you all again for your input and help . . . (Sorry for the wall of text) :)

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[Seth Karlo]

I love my battleship, as you probably know. Sometimes we forget that this IS a game, no matter how much seriousness we put into it. If we restrict everything, where's all the fun gone?

I would be very upset if someone wiped the San Francisco... I always try and be nice, I never fight anything other than battleships, I always RP, I'm always friendly...

-Seth

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[... kur nubėgo?]

not admins, but player factions shoul decide who is able to fly bs.. or perhaps it would be better and easier to decide who is not able to fly one.

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[silverleaf]

What about OORP non capships? And please, dont give more power to player factions.

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