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Offline Koolmo
10-21-2009, 05:43 PM,
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I think it would be pretty interesting to have a non-combat coalition faction, but as stated above, the current ID, docking, and system restrictions would need to change for it to be viable.

One of the problems is that the coalition IFF is admin-given only, because the ships are restricted, and it's a one-faction system. If we were to give the coalition IFF out to civilians, there's a very high chance someone will decide that they really would rather get the bomber, or the fighter, or the cruiser, and then we'd have completely ruined everything we went to all the trouble of getting.

We have in the past exchanged resources with the RHA, leading to the RoS jumping them and us, and leading to a bit of a smash-up. I wouldn't mind seeing more interaction with them, but I'm not in a position at the moment to be able to keep more than a very loose eye on the faction.

Also, I can't see us trading too much with the Zoners, if it all, when we have comrades in rheinland that would benifit much more from our resources, and us from theirs.

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Offline Tabris
10-21-2009, 05:57 PM,
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The Coalition's work in Ontario has sofar been outstanding in terms of pure Roleplay, i think Alvin has shown that the Coalition can be anything it wants to be, a Non-Combat or just Pure Combat, they rejected this 'Only two choices' and have created a beautiful hybred that is interesting and exciting to RP with. ^_^
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Offline Blodo
10-21-2009, 06:44 PM,
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There's a very, very rough trade system in place between O-52 and Rheinland unlawfuls. It deals in a few commodities, and people can apply in a diplomatic thread to receive a "Coalition visa" for purposes, which in actuality is an admin rep hack to neutrality with Coalition NPCs. So there are a few transports that can actually trade with the Coalition.

However I agree it could always be expanded upon, like proper mineable areas with ores added to O-52, good buying points for which could be put on Rheinland unlawful bases to keep with the scheme of mined commodities being sold a few systems away. A good uncut diamond buying point in Omega-52 would be nice also to allow mining imports in from O-11 for example.
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Offline schlurbi
10-21-2009, 06:58 PM,
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Civilian Communism ID

- Allowed Ships are: Freighters, Transports, Fighters
- Transports are restricted to 3800
- Can only attack in selfdefense
- Escorts may defend the Transport Ship


I think that would be cool. But I'd still would make it only Admin given. Same as the normal Coalition ID.

That would make some interesting Trading and Mining.

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Offline Koolmo
10-21-2009, 07:07 PM,
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It would require more than that. We'd need to change the stations around, make some 'Coalition Military' and some just 'Coalition'. There would probably be a dockable planet required.

I don't know that it's a good idea, really. I'm not a complete twat about letting people in there, but having a zillion transports running around, with fighters, people that we've not vetted, would turn omega 52 into a running nightmare, not to mention the very good chance of "indie coaliton", something I've been fighting against for years.


I like the idea of proper mineable fields, as well as proper buying points. Would add a lot more depth to the faction.

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Offline cmfalconer
10-21-2009, 08:31 PM,
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Quote:I'm not a complete twat about letting people in there

Yes you are. It is the first standing order to recruits. "Be a twat about letting people into the system." :D

Anyway, how many people seriously would play a Coalition Civilian? There's inevitably going to be someone who answers that rhetorical question, so I'll ask you this: What are you going to do as a Coalition Civilian?

Is it JUST to fly that AN-225 (*ahem* excuse me, the Tornado), because we'll slap a 2200 cargo hold and 4 turrets only on it and see how much you'll fly. I can't see a reason for doing this that isn't covered by flying a trader for, say the Hessians, or the Bundschuh. Then get your waiver, and trade w/ the Coalition.

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Offline Klaw117
10-21-2009, 08:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-21-2009, 08:37 PM by Klaw117.)
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I'd like to see the Coalition wage a full war with the Alliance Houses, but they're so small that they don't seem like they're in a state of full warfare.

This isn't really related to the topic, but I have a few questions about the SCRA that I think will be ok to ask here.

First, we all know that the Eastern Coalition in Sol was like Stalinist or Maoist with a totalitarian dictatorship and purging of political enemies, but is it the same now? The description of the SCRA makes them seem like they actually want to employ to "proper Marxist" communism. Is this the case now?

Also, there were rumors of two Russian and Chinese sleeper ships (what happened to Arabia and Africa?) landing in Omega-52. Is this true also or is the majority of the Coalition made up of Alliance defectors now?

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Offline cmfalconer
10-21-2009, 08:44 PM,
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' Wrote:I'd like to see the Coalition wage a full war with the Alliance Houses, but they're so small that they don't seem like they're in a state of full warfare.

Guerilla War. We are small, but so was the GMG when they took down the Rheinland Fleet. We've got a bigger fish (All of Sirius) to fry, so our timeline's a bit longer. Making headway in Rheinland with the RRA, and in Liberty with the LRF (keep up the good fight boys).

' Wrote:This isn't really related to the topic, but I have a few questions about the SCRA that I think will be ok to ask here.
We've also got a Faction Feedback too.

' Wrote:First, we all know that the Eastern Coalition in Sol was like Stalinist or Maoist with a totalitarian dictatorship and purging of political enemies, but is it the same now? The description of the SCRA makes them seem like they actually want to employ to "proper Marxist" communism. Is this the case now?
Ask Adrian, he's the political major. I will say that my character fights for a state-run, resource-sharing utopia. He doesn't mind being told what to do, and will do it for the good of the people.

' Wrote:Also, there were rumors of two Russian and Chinese sleeper ships (what happened to Arabia and Africa?) landing in Omega-52. Is this true also or is the majority of the Coalition made up of Alliance defectors now?
No sleeper ships landed in O52. No more sleeper ships, please! Think of the children.

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Offline Quorg
10-21-2009, 09:59 PM,
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No need for third parties to trade with the Coalition, nor for the Coalition to receive another ID. If they want to, they can simply apply to the Coalition and use some generic ship.

Also, what's this ridiculous nonsense about 20% of the population consisting of women and children? Unless there's some disease or other public health factor that reduces the number of women, there should be nearly 50% women. Furthermore, assuming that the Coalition's bases include populations with natural increase (in other words, assuming that the Coalition isn't dying off without the help of immigrants, which is obviously not the case), there should be more young people and children then there are older people and adults.

So a 60% mobilization rate really means that you have to be mobilizing essentially all male and female adults (which would not work for obvious reasons) or that you have children fighting for the Coalition.

Epidemiology happens to be a special interest of mine...

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Offline Exsiled_one
10-22-2009, 07:13 AM,
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I took the 60% mobilisation from freelancer wiki. I didn't make it up.

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