AW to SA

[Korrd]

From: Korrd
To: Adm. Adamson

As we have no authority in the aforementioned systems (gamma and 41), you have no authority outside you home system. We do not ask things to people inside 41 or Gamma, but Theta only.
If Magellan were your home system, then you would be right to ask us out. But it is not. It belongs to no one. So all your claims are invalid as per the Sirius laws.

Also, Magellan is a "must pass through" if we want to reach Vespucci, our allies homeland. That is the reason for our presence there.

Also, it has come to my attention that your ships have been scanning people outside your jurisdiction, asking people out of systems that are not yours, and also taking cargo and attacking without provocation.
That, to my eyes, has a name. Piracy. And it is something that a lawful faction cannot do.
Is this true? Is it true that you have been behaving like that?
If so, better it is an isolated incident, or some rogue, or misinformed, element of your faction, for that will hurt the relations with many factions on this Sector that consider themselves lawful.

We will keep our ship passing through Magellan. We will defend our Allies in the case of a war. And if you dare to attack us (As we will not begin the hostilities), we will make sure that this time, no one is left to rebuild your faction.

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[OsoRojo]

Also, Magellan is a "must pass through" if we want to reach Vespucci, our allies homeland. That is the reason for our presence there.

True

Also, it has come to my attention that your ships have been scanning people outside your jurisdiction, asking people out of systems that are not yours, and also taking cargo and attacking without provocation.

If so, this is the first report. Though all we have here is rumor, however, if evidence of such is provided those responsible shall receive justice.

In addition, our accord called for HF-SA War to only be between said factions and the SA never declared War over. Neutrality was a ceasefire.

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From: Liberty Department of Defense
To: South Alliance Command
Re: HellFire Legion

The top brass on Manhattan want the war to end, for at least a little bit. Its been taking a toll on trade and tourism.

My message to you: Do something.

Regards,

Overall, this has become bothersome, so "Defecate or get off the pot." If you truly wish to solve incident then name terms and stop this bloody hot air.

SA

[Dab]

You call a report of the incident by Lt. General Koss a rumor? The SA ordered the AW to drop his cargo in Megellan, where they had no control. Then chased him, along with the enlisted help of an SF pilot. That is fact. not fiction/rumor.

And I've given you the terms. You cease any and all hostilities with the AW and our allies. Personally I don't see that as much to ask of someone who just broke a cease fire treaty.

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[OsoRojo]

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To: AW

Comm ID: Richmond HQ

Greetings,

Hostilities with AW has not been instituted. However, in relation to your allies I cannot for Bs and Helghast are hostile to us. In relation to HF, we are in negotiations to stepback or make amends. In relation to your associate, I do not know him and so I side with caution and my soldiers. If your associate can provide solid evidence instead of hearsay I shall take swift action.

Governor OsoRojo of Texas (Asst. DOD)

[gezza999]

From: Admiral Gezza
To: Governor OsoRojo of Texas

We regret your decision to revert the treaty we agreed on... AW are prepared to fight for our allies.. Though I personally would prefer a policy of leaving trading vessels out of this.. neither of our organisations are essentially pirates. Please, leave any AW traders in out your territories to trade. A nation's laws do not apply in other countries at times...


*OoC* Amazing... no break for this clan. If I'm needed to fight, can we at stop this "Capship spam" tactic your using... it's making every fight boring as hell...

Just because guns are banned in the UK doesn't mean they're banned in America... the Metropolitan police don't travel to New York, and start doing raids on peoples house confiscating guns do they..? * End of OoC*

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[Firebird]

Just because guns are banned in the UK doesn't mean they're banned in America... the Metropolitan police don't travel to New York, and start doing raids on peoples house confiscating guns do they..? * End of OoC*

True, but Magellan is patrolled by Liberty and Bretonian vessels, and the NPCs do ask for contraband. IMO SA is justified to ask for contraband in Magellan within the range of the Liberty patrols. However, SA does not have jurisdiction is the ordering of vessels out of an independent system, which has already been apologized for.

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[OsoRojo]

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To: AW

Comm ID: Richmond HQ

Greetings,

If a true lapse by an SA unit towards an AW has happened the proper arena is to bring it to the Admiralty's attention, i.e. SA petition to AW due to the AW-Tyfring vs. SA-OsoRojo incident. In relation to HF, it is in the process of healing to a degree. If a true infraction of our regulations has happened provide us with evidence as SA did in the stated incident above. Our justice will be true and swift as it was with Admiral Nusston (once known as Fleet Admiral). Otherwise, this seems more of a search for justification to ressume hostilities.

Governor OsoRojo of Texas (Asst. DOD)

[Alpha 429]

True, but Magellan is patrolled by Liberty and Bretonian vessels, and the NPCs do ask for contraband. IMO SA is justified to ask for contraband in Magellan within the range of the Liberty patrols.

OOC:
Firebird Im not sure we really should be going down that road. That would mean that Magellan would effectively be splitt into 3 "spheres of influence" with the SF in the west (around the Manchester JG and around the BAF controlled trade lane) the SA to the East (around the Cali JG and LN controlled trade lanes) and the HF to the north (around Mactan and the vespucci JH) Then of course if there was ever an incident a flame fest would no doubt follow as to whos zone the incident took place in and therefore who's fault it was. Then of course if it happens in one "border system" then it can happen in all the others (Hudson, Kepler etc)
TBH those systems i dont really care about but if a new pirate faction tried to start up as the Unioners (for example) then they would find it difficult to set up because the independant systems around rheinland would be carved up into zones of influence belonging to lawful factions and they would no doubt have problems operating there.

But it would also mean that the house factions would technically be able to increase their spheres of influence into some of the Taus, omegas and Sigmas (as some of them are also "border systems") That is where i would have a problem as those are the real neutral/ pirate space and no house faction should have any presence there.

Also if the lawful factions are allowed to call the shots around there patrol paths outside their systems then so can the other factions. The GoR would technically own Beta as well as certain slices of teh Taus, TBH as corsairs would have a lot of zones in the omegas because of the corsair patrols and bases. And opf course the AW would technically be allowed to enforce their law around Freeports and zoner patrol routes and as we all know they are all over sirius. Do you want that? No you dont, i dont even want that (bit of a bugger to enforce laws in some of those places)

Now you gotta remember if a lawful faction is allowed to enforce laws outside their house just because their is an NPC presence (in the form of patrols) then all factions can too (lawful or not) And as I've tried to point out that would lead to madness!!:crazy:

I know it's all speculation but i've been here long enough to know that something like this would no doubt happen so i say we drop it before someone gets an idea
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[Exile]

OOC:
Firebird Im not sure we really should be going down that road. That would mean that Magellan would effectively be splitt into 3 "spheres of influence" with the SF in the west (around the Manchester JG and around the BAF controlled trade lane) the SA to the East (around the Cali JG and LN controlled trade lanes) and the HF to the north (around Mactan and the vespucci JH)

And BSG in the middle of things!
Please, dont make us move our fleet.

(( ooc: in the middle of it cuz, FP4 = IMG base, BSG=IMG =UHO for BSG))

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[Korrd]

OOC: Correct.
We cannot apply the NPC patrol model here. We have to manage whole systems, not areas inside a system, as faction space.

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