BHG, and some naked girls

[Bass_masta992]

Athenian's apparently on break or something, he seems like the person to bring this up with when he gets back.

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[Dashiell]

Athenian is busy irl. he has a Graves jr to tend to.

Agmen is busy irl as well

Tic has disappeared completely

and frankly, I'm thinking of doing the same.

the BHG just isn't fun anymore. everywhere you go, everything you do, it's always not good enough. constant whining, bashing and complaining. I'm sick and tired of all the mindless bashing and nerfing we have to endure each end everytime we log on.

then there's the lovely pirate player base who so thoroughly enjoy chasing a single manta with 3 tridentes but cry crocodile tears when 2 Morays rip their precsouis Tridente to shreads.

then there's the non stop pissing and moaning about bounties.

In delta you get 17 Ossies on a Sea Serpent. or 50 Gebs. fleet battles are nigh impossible now, with those ****ty underpowered BHG caps. pracicially all the BHG ships bigger than the bomber are completely outmatched.

The Keepers have all but dissapeared (which I can understand, in their situation) so delta is nothing but a 'dai bhg, dai' nest now.

to be honest, I'm fed up with it all.

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[Tommeh]

I completely agree about the part of BHG capitals, they are indeed nerfed to much. On last few events BHG| always lose despite even sometimes having more caps then Order. They are all good and experienced pilots in their caps, I doubt they lose because lack of skill.
After all those events, I can say for sure that their caps need a bit of buf. To be even with Order caps.

And about whining flaming and bashing on BHG|, Dash I missed that part, only whining I saw is the one about bounties.
Order| is within the official factions that got heavy bashing and flaming in last couple of days.
I didn't saw anything like that for official faction since I joined Disco.
So, you left BHG| channel now, then what me and Kelt should have done after all that flaming we got.
Order| now has probably the worst reputation within officials. I don't know how it came to that, I spend half of night thinking what was so fatal that we made wrong, but nevermind now.
Leaving or waiting for stuff to fix by themself is not way for me.
BHG| has good rep, just it's missing activity from my point of view. And that's not bashing in any way.

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[Chico]

Yeah, I kinda agree with what most of the BHG are saying here.
Underpowered caps give them a hard time and the constant complaints and sniping from the sidelines just wears you down eventually.

I feel sorry for them (huh? A Corsair feeling sorry for the BHG?).
I actually think that if the BH returned to their grass roots (minus the cap spam) throughout Sirius, they'd have a much better time of it.
Blanket bounties should stay and if your a pirate, you'd better beware.
Get them into Liberty. It might help relieve the pressure on the overstretched police/military there.(Read elswhere on these forums).

I liked 90% of my battles with the BH and I've had a few.
It only got bad when I got totally spammed right outside Crete and I know most of the real BH RP'ers wouldn't do it so I just ran with it.

Bring back the S/D and Co. Bring back the BH into Sirius!
Hell, Mason & Spencer (& Co) scared the hell outa me even if they did seem to concentrate specifically around Corsairs....
Put some fear back out there guys. Give a little love back.

Respectfully yours,
Your biggest fan,
Go pick on someone else,

Chico. :P

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[NonSequitor]

Back when I joined the server, being a BH was a good deal more fun. A player in peril could PM you in game, name the target and pay you for a successful hunt. That is the way it should of stayed, despite the knuckleheads who went overboard with it.

The whole "post the bounty on the forums" thing is good, but really should be one possible way to organize a bounty. What Jinx alluded to is the truth - you often end up second guessing yourself when pursuing bounties. Nor is checking the forums for the bounties scattered here and there much fun. Yeah, yeah - this is an rp server, but it's also a GAME. Games are generally played for fun, not to remind us of our RL jobs.

Someone brought up his view (Ryoken) in another thread, that there seems to be more unlawfuls in game nowadays. Well, I think he has a point. Being and unlawful is much more entertaining to an increasing large number of players. An unlawful can relatively freely bully, threaten, rob and kill. No bureacracy, no paperwork, no drudge. Of course they have to rp like everyone else.

@Dashiell: The Mako (with the fixed hitbox) is a good small BS. The problem is the craptacular weapons (which goes for all capship classes) that the BH have. In a word, they're underpowered and visually boring.

The BC is one of the best in the game, even with the gimped firing arcs. Thruster FTW.

The dessie needs more juice - enough to lob 2 LMs. The Reseph powerplant would be a nice fit. Why a reconn destroyer has more offensive power than a dedicted combat vessel of the same class is a mystery to me.

The Orca is a snac magnet. Why folks even bother with large gbs in this mod is a mystery to me. The gs is ok - nothing spectacular, but not a total zero either.

And feel free to tell me in game if my Osiris is being obnoxious. I think it's better that everyone has fun in Delta and Kappa. And even Minor.

[Tic]

Tic has disappeared completely

Tic is here, lurking in the shadows.

And yea, a lot of stuff contributed to the dissappearance of BHG, from crappy caps and cap weapons to constant whining/insulting.

It's not really fun to play if every idiot out there wants to kill you, and they're almost always in better ships and there's more of them, and then if you somehow manage to kill them, all you'll get is whine..

If I want to do that and feel like that, I'll get a job. At least I'll have some use of it.

[mjolnir]

A player in peril could PM you in game, name the target and pay you for a successful hunt. That is the way it should of stayed, despite the knuckleheads who went overboard with it.

The whole "post the bounty on the forums" thing is good, but really should be one possible way to organize a bounty. What Jinx alluded to is the truth - you often end up second guessing yourself when pursuing bounties. Nor is checking the forums for the bounties scattered here and there much fun. Y

Agree with that.

There's the bounty command which afaik is included in the Flhook we currently use, just disabled. I think we should give it a try (possibly with some modifications)

I believe the current one works llike this:

/setbounty Jack.Smith 10000000

now if someone does stbounty he gets a list of current bounties (with employers name I guess)

Jack.Smith also gets some warning.
Now if the hunter kills Jack.Smith he gets the money automatically.

I'm sure there are tons of ways to change/improve this (perhaps to just send message to the employer that the target was killed by XY).

Anyway point is that it should be easy to
1. Put up a bounty
2. Find a bounty
3. Find out you are hunted
(4. Confirm the kill)

Now neither of these points really work.

Also this should probably not be in flood.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[Irra]

All started with why BHG isn't active ... but its way deeper problem ...move it to discussion or leave it here as long there is no "flood" posts. Or maybe it even better here, no one will come for +1 and everyone else who cares can discuss it without disturbance.

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[waimser]

Agree with that.

There's the bounty command which afaik is included in the Flhook we currently use, just disabled. I think we should give it a try (possibly with some modifications)

I believe the current one works llike this:

/setbounty Jack.Smith 10000000

now if someone does stbounty he gets a list of current bounties (with employers name I guess)

Jack.Smith also gets some warning.
Now if the hunter kills Jack.Smith he gets the money automatically.

I'm sure there are tons of ways to change/improve this (perhaps to just send message to the employer that the target was killed by XY).

Anyway point is that it should be easy to
1. Put up a bounty
2. Find a bounty
3. Find out you are hunted
(4. Confirm the kill)

Now neither of these points really work.

Also this should probably not be in flood.

^ what he said.

Back in vanilla the bounty system worked damn near perfectly.
Easy to set a bounty. Garantee of payment if you fire the last shot.
Simple to double check bounties without the need to even alt+tab, let alone having to troll through forums and get killed while alt+tabed.



I also agree with alot of other stuff said here. Its just too damn hard to be a BH and too easy to pirate with the state of sanctions now.
Pirates have it so easy so they have nothing better to do than to make sanction reports. And BH are too busy trying not to get sanctioned to actually do any hunting.

[looqas]

Don't be so disheartened chaps. People still like to do regular bounty hunting. I do enjoy a challenge still to go against 'difficult' odds at times. When I can interest myself enough to get in server that is.

BHG is not dead, it's just having a regular slump.

Dash, I still remember the fun times we used to have when going out on a hunt together. All it really takes is 1 BHG patrolling and people will join you in your hunt.

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Flying under radar.