It's the pie-rats!

[Baltar]

@ TYHPilot: Yup ... all we ever hear from these anti-pirates is the bad experiences. For ONCE I'd like to here some traders post threads with their GOOD experiences.

Lets get some freaking balance in the forums please folks.

Well, what in-Rp reason could anyone have to mount OC and Xeno weapons on the same ship, other than the PvP advantage? While your points are valid, in this circumstance they wouldn't really apply.

They are INDEPENDENT pirates. They can pretty much have any combination they want. You might wanna ask the same question of our lawful indies. I've seen a few lawfuls flying around mixing Rheinland and Liberty tech (those houses are at war folks). Why is it these guys always gotta gripe about pirates and then turn around and give a free pass to lawfuls that do the EXACT SAME THING?

Do you even think it's possible to read all bio's and stories, as well as all weapon permissions. Of course not, yes I do know plenty of people but not all by far. Do you?

Then don't make the accusations. You are making the claim that they're flying around with equipment that they shouldn't have ... and you don't even know if they've got the approval from the faction leaders. Yes ... if you're gonna throw out accusations like that ... then you do need to read the bios and seek out the faction leaders. Otherwise ... snap the picture and file a report. What you're doing here is WRONG ... trial-by-forum my friend is NEVER a good thing. It just ticks people off.

You say I've mentioned the pirates, where? The reason I censored their names is to prevent the 'anti-kudos' from happening. And I've even made that part 'bold' ->most of<- the Freelancer Pirate ID'd players I've run into recently are a pain. It was not my intention to make all Pirate ID'd players look bad, and If I did then my apologies for that.

Oh ... good ... didn't realize you censored their names. But you do know there might be actual pirates out there with those names. You might wanna just replace their name with "name 1 censored" and "name 2 censored" so we know you've modified the text. Not to mention ... what else did you modify from that text file?

As for Freelancer IFF'd Pirate ID'd pirates ... don't you even dare throw us all in the same pile. Good way to make enemies is to generalize and stereotype. You've run into how many total? Cause you haven't come across me yet.

I'm not giving anyone a trial-by-forum as their names are blocked. Reason why I wanted to post this up is because I think there has to be more guide lines in the Pirate ID on load out. Otherwise you'll get more and more of these people.

Also the reason I sticked around them was because I like to have discussions. Should I just go ignore everybody that talks to me? I'm in-game to role play around, thats what I did with them. I just was amazed by the part where they mentioned my ID and where they didn't had any ground to attack me nor to tax me 4 million, and knew I wouldn't pay so they had a reason to engage me.

I just wanted to hear people's opinions about the ID, not those pirates their a example.

Once again, my apologies if I made you upset. Kudos to those Pirate ID'd players around that do know how it's done.

How about posting your GOOD encounters with other pirates ... eh? I'm getting tired of the negative stuff we see EVERY BLASTED DAY around here. Do any of you traders have anything GOOD to say about us pirates?

I got some kudos from a few folks in-game just this week. I wonder if I'll ever see that text in the forums?

[Elsdragon]

Few people will say anthing good about someone who akes their money.... >.>

La.Villa.Strangiato or something was a pleasure to run into. Havent seen him anymore though.

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No longer a slave to the man!

[Warlord]

What you're doing here is WRONG ... trial-by-forum my friend is NEVER a good thing.

Okay point taken, I'm sorry. I guess I was just a little tempered by the bad encounters I've been having recently. I'll try writing it in a document and erase it after or something.

But you do know there might be actual pirates out there with those names.

Theres a possibility yes, a small chance but lets be sure there won't be a misunderstanding.

what else did you modify from that text file?

Only their names were changed, death messages were removed, server announcements were removed and some private chat was removed.

How about posting your GOOD encounters with other pirates ... eh?

I give out kudos, sometimes in the topic but mostly in-game. Just recently I've had many poor encounters.
Once again my apologies for making a trial-by-forum topic, won't happen again.

Discussion ended.

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[Tovig]

Pirate ID Freelancer IFF should be able to use civilians stuff only, since they don't choose a side. (any unlawful IFF).

[Foror]

Pirate ID Freelancer IFF should be able to use civilians stuff only, since they don't choose a side. (any unlawful IFF).

they have the same limitations as everyone else. the two pirating were what people here call lolwhaters. look back at my posts on that from earlier.

in any case, as the author pointed out, that wasnt ment to be the main discussion at hand, so please dont off topic O.o

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[Baltar]

Pirate ID Freelancer IFF should be able to use civilians stuff only, since they don't choose a side. (any unlawful IFF).

Use the tech chart ... its part of the rule book. Tech limitations are based on the ID ... NOT the IFF. Pirate ID allows you to fly ships and equipment from ANY civilian or unlawful faction with certain exceptions. One exception would be if you had a specific faction IFF.

Example #1: Pirate ID with Corsair IFF ... limited to Corsair, allied and neutral ships and equipment.

Example #2: Pirate ID with Freelancer IFF ... can have Outcast AND Corsair guns so long as they received permission from both Outcast and Corsair to use them. Will this happen? Dunno ... but it CAN happen.

When in doubt ... use the tech chart.

Keep in mind Kelt ... because a Pirate ID and Freelancer IFF means they've not chosen a specific faction ... it does NOT mean they cannot use faction equipment. You wanna go there ... well ... lets talk about those house militaries and police using civilian weapons. Or how about Civilians using house military and police ships and equipment. Or how about that Trader ID'd Freelancer IFF'd character flying a Kusari transport with Bretonian guns? Lets not be hypocrites now.

[Canadianguy]

Pirate ID Freelancer IFF should be able to use civilians stuff only, since they don't choose a side. (any unlawful IFF).

Nope, they can use weapons from anyone the chart ables them to use stuff from. Only thing is, asking permission is a good idea, or they could decide they dont want you to use it and take it back by force.

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[msgerbs]

The ID is there for confirmation to what people are affiliated with. Freelancer tag and a Pirate ID seems like a quite annoying combo, because you can't make out what they really are before it's too late:nyam:.

The vantage point is tipped over to the 'pirates' that have this combo from the other bad guys who are affiliated and having proper tags and IDs. The freelancer pirates can sit almost anonymously and unnoticed until something interesting happens to pass them by. Then they can start acting out from their Pirate ID, at a time it probably will be too late for the unknowing <insert bait> to avoid them. So I can understand why so many creates these types of characters.

It sounds a bit like the masked highwaymen from way past and I like that. But as pointed out by the original poster, solid roleplay is essential for these kinds of characters to make sense and not just be another kind of annoyance.

You're complaining because it's realistic? It's not like pirates put a big "LOL IM A PIWATE" stamp on their ship. You shouldn't know if they are or aren't.

An ID is intended for you to know what role someone is playing OORP. InRP you go by their IFF and how they act.

However I think things like navy and police tags (LSF excepted) are visible. But things like neutral IDs should not be. (inRP)

[underd0g]

You're complaining because it's realistic? It's not like pirates put a big "LOL IM A PIWATE" stamp on their ship. You shouldn't know if they are or aren't.

An ID is intended for you to know what role someone is playing OORP. InRP you go by their IFF and how they act.

However I think things like navy and police tags (LSF excepted) are visible. But things like neutral IDs should not be. (inRP)

I'm sorry, where in my reply do you find any hint of a complaint? I'm only stating facts. Annoying combo, yes, for whoever runs into them unknowingly. I doubt someone getting robbed from someone they first thought were friendly is going to celebrate their success of falling into a well set up trap.

Yes, in roleplay you go by their IFF. The ID is there for us to determine whether this fellow we are roleplaying with is who he really is. (Am I repeating myself?)

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My characters on Disco:
[LN]-Andy.Doggett, The.Flying.Betty, Russ.Dalton, Harald.Treutiger

Stories:
The Shellback Identity
Trader Blues

[ryoken]

Example #2: Pirate ID with Freelancer IFF ... can have Outcast AND Corsair guns so long as they received permission from both Outcast and Corsair to use them. Will this happen? Dunno ... but it CAN happen.

Sorry mate,very wrong here. Admins have said so in the past. NO RIVAL FACTION GUNS ON ANY SHIP,FOR ANY REASON.

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