Gunboats beating Cruisers

[Ketzel]

I've solo'd a gunboat in a bomber. He really sucked though.

I think Cruisers need some kind of boost though. Of course, I've never had the privilege of flying one, so I wouldn't know.

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[CzeReptile]

Cruisers are currently being rather useless against anything.
Gunboats are currently the own of all, with good pilots especially. They can own anything in size, and also to add, I have been able to beat Argus in my Hydra with no problem. Hell I could take on dread without troubles!

Gunboats are imo overpowered, and there is no need for more bomber weapons. Ships immo need general rethink.

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[Ash]

Alright place yourselves into the following position. Your running a trading company, your traders get pirates to much that it effects your profit and the morale to much.
So you decide to set up a escort service to fly along with your traders in order to raise the morale and profits again. But those escorters run into a lot of gunboats who just makes short work of them.

Now your a civilian organization so anything larger then a fighter or bomber is impossible.
See my point being?

This is kinda void now as the bomber is the usual pirate ship of choice these days. In RP a civilian trading faction wouldn't be able to afford bombers, but then again they might, there's alot of money in trading. In a day a trading faction can make anything between 200-600 million at optimum. So we kinda eliminate the possibility of a GB taking out the escorts with ease as they're usually bombers.

Look at the big picture, everything is fairly balanced.

Bombers take Caps, However their not as effective against Gunboats.
Gunboats take Cruisers and occasionally smalls.
Cruisers can take Smalls and occasionally Battleships.
Battleships can take Smalls and occasionally Gunboats.

Transports and Traders are only as strong as their escorts.

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[Agmen of Eladesor]

Well, actually your description perfectly fits in with the two gunboat class ships I'm most familiar with, the Bottlenose and the Orca. Those ships are DESIGNED to go out and hunt down and take out bombers. The Orca also has the ability to be a support ship for the cruiser class ships as well - think WWII PT boats.

I guess I'm confused - the ships are doing what they're supposed to be doing, and you've a problem with that?

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Ketzel]

I don't know if Cruisers can take Fighters. The fighters might not be able to do much damage to a cruiser, but that's different than a cruiser being effective against a fighter.

Anyways, what about using Novas against gunboats? 10,000 less energy use, faster refire, the possibility of destroying the gunboat's turrets, the ability to fire the bomber's guns while also shooting the torpedo, all add up to effectiveness.

Personally, the only downside to using Novas for me is the ammo. But it needs a downside, I suppose, if it's got better refire, energy usage, and damage compared to a snac.

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[11of10]

Don't just read the topic title, thats only meant to attract attention.
Alright place yourselves into the following position. Your running a trading company, your traders get pirates to much that it effects your profit and the morale to much.
So you decide to set up a escort service to fly along with your traders in order to raise the morale and profits again. But those escorters run into a lot of gunboats who just makes short work of them.

Now your a civilian organization so anything larger then a fighter or bomber is impossible.
See my point being?

Good bomber, and screamer mines. 6 screamers strip the gunboats shields down, and you can spam them quite fast, especially against such a big target. then SNAC it.


Edit: Nova's turn too poorly, or so I hear.

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Be excelent to each other!

[Ketzel]

Oh yeah, I didn't even think of mines. Yeah, with mines + snac

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[Exsiled_one]

Gunboat beats cruiser
Ptrans beats gunboats
Bombers beat ptrans

Bomber > cruiser?

But seriously, gunboats are fine. Trust me they are. Cruisers are fine too. Did you try KNF one? No? It's smaller than Corsair Gunboat? WHAT?! ARE YOU FRIKKIN KIDDING ME IVAN?!
AND I CAN FLY THAT?

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[Ketzel]

Shhh, I'm saving up for that one. You're going to get it nerfed before I can lolwut everything.

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[Hawk]

Alright place yourselves into the following position. Your running a trading company, your traders get pirates to much that it effects your profit and the morale to much.
So you decide to set up a escort service to fly along with your traders in order to raise the morale and profits again. But those escorters run into a lot of gunboats who just makes short work of them.

Now your a civilian organization so anything larger then a fighter or bomber is impossible.
See my point being?

If I were said trade company (Especially corporations) I think I would be hiring mercenaries with gunboats. What else am I going to do with all that money besides buy a battleship and lolwut everyone?

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