' Wrote:This is incorrect. If lore establishes Zoners transport it to you, then they do. Zoner players are not the only Zoners. Quit ignoring lore.
I take it then that Samura does, in fact, supply the Bundschuh because they send transports into the Luneberg jumphole?
I also gather from this that Sigma-13 has in fact been clean for years, but we're just seeing it wrong. The presence of scrap metal and H-fuel in the system is in fact a figment of our imaginations, possibly a result of cardamine or Synth Mary Jane.
I could name a lot of stuff where the NPCs do silly things, or where vanilla information is no longer up to date. But I doubt that listing them would change what you think so I'm not going to bother.
If the Zoner players don't do it, then there's no reason to respond to players as if "other Zoners" did. If all Zoner players decided to stop trading with the Corsairs (in response to some event or whatever), would you be happy if the Corsairs declined to play along because "lore says the Zoners supply the Corsairs"? I'm quite sure you'd sing a different tune.
If lore establishes Zoners transport pharmaceuticals to the Corsairs, then the Zoners should consider transporting pharmaceuticals to the Corsairs now and then or otherwise explaining why nobody is doing it- like, perhaps, that deal fell by the wayside sometime in the past. I'm having a fun time seeing the Liberty Navy use your logic with the war with Rheinland... "well there's a war based on the lore, but we don't bother heading over to Rheinland because the NPCs do it for us".
What you should be thinking is not "well you're wrong" but "the Corsairs will be nicer to Cryer if the Zoners transport pharmaceuticals to them, and Cryer will be very happy if the Corsairs are nicer to them, so perhaps they'd be willing to subsidize it $$$". Quit trolling and recognize that you're practically being handed money.
EDIT: Sorry, this was completely unrelated to the behavior of the Sails. If, say, Cryer was inclined to pay certain third parties to make the Corsairs happier by way of supplying them with pharmaceuticals, would the Corsairs be willing to keep said third parties off their pirating list? Howabout if said third parties had, ah, prior associations, shall we say... like perhaps the Slaver's Union? Might that be overlooked in the interests of cooperation between the Corsairs and Cryer? If the Zoners aren't going to take the opportunity I'd hate to let it go to waste.
I had stopped complaining about you guys, but yet again you have to act like idiots in game...
Just today i was fighting against a group of you and i was chasing a non Sail vessel that was doing shield running for like half an hour, and i sttoped chasing and said i was out of the battle, and one of your pilots had to coment and say i dont care and started flamming... i was not talking to him, i was not complaining about a sail pilot, why the hell he started to flamme me!???
Zero RP, pure flamming!!
I really hope you guys never go official!!
<span style="font-family:Comic Sans Ms"> Being in NY sistem all the time, means you are a lolwutt...</span>
' Wrote:I had stopped complaining about you guys, but yet again you have to act like idiots in game...
Just today i was fighting against a group of you and i was chasing a non Sail vessel that was doing shield running for like half an hour, and i sttoped chasing and said i was out of the battle, and one of your pilots had to coment and say i dont care and started flamming... i was not talking to him, i was not complaining about a sail pilot, why the hell he started to flamme me!???
Zero RP, pure flamming!!
I really hope you guys never go official!!
Hmpf, I may not be here at this moment or it was in private chats I couldn't read.
Not giving names doesn't help.
PM received and I see nothing wrong in the logs I have in possession :
Karolis in red. You in green.
Group talking has been removed for obvious reasons (no swearing here:))
Quote:[14.02.2010 13:54:51] {SOB}Diabolis: Im out...
[14.02.2010 13:54:59] Black.Sails: Well som of them have instant repair stuff. [14.02.2010 13:55:05] Karolis.|Sails: Oh, that rat is out.
[14.02.2010 13:55:06] Black.Sails: Gonna fix this. [14.02.2010 13:55:27] {SOB}Diabolis: Pedro are you stupid=?? [14.02.2010 13:55:37] {SOB}Diabolis: IM OUT of the battle [14.02.2010 13:56:06] Karolis.|Sails: No one cares about it. [14.02.2010 13:56:10] {SOB}Diabolis: Later, shield running fights are not for me
[14.02.2010 13:56:37] {SOB}Diabolis: Why this Sails cant learn from Benitez or TBH [14.02.2010 13:56:42] Karolis.|Sails: It's odd to see when people cry. [14.02.2010 13:56:43] {SOB}Diabolis: **sighs** [14.02.2010 13:56:47] Karolis.|Sails: We can.
[14.02.2010 13:56:51] Karolis.|Sails: Watch it out.
[14.02.2010 13:58:27] Karolis.|Sails: Gabriel, mind to take care of this one.
I add also you didn't dock at this moment while you could in no time.
If the fact that saying "I'm out" makes all for you, why were we chased from Malta to Eta hole all that time ?
Anyone using the rules at his advantages would say they didn't dock and lie about their retirement from the battle and backstab the others.
Game and rule mechanics break lot of things.
' Wrote:I had stopped complaining about you guys, but yet again you have to act like idiots in game...
Just today i was fighting against a group of you and i was chasing a non Sail vessel that was doing shield running for like half an hour, and i sttoped chasing and said i was out of the battle, and one of your pilots had to coment and say i dont care and started flamming... i was not talking to him, i was not complaining about a sail pilot, why the hell he started to flamme me!???
Zero RP, pure flamming!!
I really hope you guys never go official!!
Ok, things I noticed.
You have to much free time, and you are lack of attention.
From the skype chats, I red that you'll keep dropping **** on us at any cost, you want to be an pain in our ass and so, but it's not working and it will not work.
This whole nonsence just make me smile, you may keep flamming us, I don't mind. We'll get official or we won't, it won't change anything, we feel perfect as indies at the moment.
You was next to the base, if you want finish the battle, fly in to minefield or dock, else fight will finish once we'll say so.
If you don't like us, don't get in to the fight with us, don't get in to same system.. You won't make us disband or feel bad.
About that forum drama, I won't be discussing about it again, I will not get involved in to it, if you have something to say what is actually worth to read, feel free do it on skype.
Since i flied into the station i took two minutes to land... so great point there.... Awesome indeed... **sighs**
And "Im out" worked for me very well in other fights with corsairs that know something about behave themselves...
I dont care about what indie OC's do first off all, and when the first Sail said im going out or something like that, i stopped shooting. I could only hope for some sense of honor, but apparently im mistaken...
So i repeat nyself i really expect you guys never make it official... because we already have enough factions with without any sense of RP.
<span style="font-family:Comic Sans Ms"> Being in NY sistem all the time, means you are a lolwutt...</span>
' Wrote:Since i flied into the station i took two minutes to land... so great point there.... Awesome indeed... **sighs**
And "Im out" worked for me very well in other fights with corsairs that know something about behave themselves...
I dont care about what indie OC's do first off all, and when the first Sail said im going out or something like that, i stopped shooting. I could only hope for some sense of honor, but apparently im mistaken...
So i repeat nyself i really expect you guys never make it official... because we already have enough factions with without any sense of RP.
Until today I had little to none interaction with you, but the MM~ battle today left me with a lot of respect for you guys. Your performance today was definitely on the level asked from an official faction. High above that, I'd say. You conducted the large and long battle excellently.
You pirated me once, one of your sails guys...and to say I was not impressed.
I offered him 3million he said no,
He wants 2 million, and then follows with the YOU BETTER PAY IT.
* RmJ Headdesk
And regarding pirate turf war, its just simple politics of guns. IF they out gun you today you go pirate somewhere else. 'Sairs not around...good all the hording for the Sails if the 'sairs are large and in charge run for the hills y'all get slaughtered.
*shakes head
done and done
edit: Too add, it was short, no real RP that one would go by and just really not that exciting. Not like being pirated by LR or some of the others.
Edit: Though Mejor amigo i met up with him and he did well, ^^
He wants 2 million, and then follows with the YOU BETTER PAY IT.
* sampankaj001 Headdesk
You had been pirated by me Zigeris, You are in your KTS shared ship.
I'm also looking for RP but when I said please cut your engines, instantly you just do the same & offered me the 3 mils in fear by my presence:D.
If you give offers to pirate before there demand, it will force us to lower the demand.
but that was too much for me as i'm looking for the money to refit my Titan also i already got enough money that day.
(I'll demand rairly that much, even if your hauling ore but i love cargo when i'm in my Ptrans:D)
when i'm a indie pirate, once I had made a demand for 5 mil to zoner indie trader in Omega 47 near O49 Jump hole & he dropped all his cargo & headed back said keep it as i'm in Pratorian:lol:.