' Wrote:(And hell please, do it for your own good, if pirate asks you to cut your engines, cut it to zero, it might save everyones nerves and credits. Also move out from trade lane if requested is nice, since if you stand just waiting for a right moment to escape you automaticly force pirate to watch the situation intensivly. Which means he will hold one finger on the trigger, while try to roleplay with other hand. This is quite frustrating. And damages quality fo rp too)
It is not against RP to TRY to run away from the person attacking you, if you think so, tell me how; all I see is that you get POed that you lost someone to Pirate.
Now, I know how it fells, since I have more than 1 charter in different Factions, including the Corsairs, and I know what I am saying here. Do not take me as a fool.
@Grimly: This is not a flame fest, you just refuse to fix a problem. And It was you, you in your Pirate Transport. Fix your own problem, and use an engagement notice if you are killing me. AND NO THERE WAS NOT ANY DEMANDS MADE, and HALT is not a demand.
' Wrote:It is not against RP to TRY to run away from the person attacking you, if you think so, tell me how; all I see is that you get POed that you lost someone to Pirate.
Now, I know how it fells, since I have more than 1 charter in different Factions, including the Corsairs, and I know what I am saying here. Do not take me as a fool.
@Grimly: This is not a flame fest, you just refuse to fix a problem. And It was you, you in your Pirate Transport. Fix your own problem, and use an engagement notice if you are killing me. AND NO THERE WAS NOT ANY DEMANDS MADE, and HALT is not a demand.
concerning 'pvp', its not fun (OR A CHALLENGE) at all to kill your transport in a ptrans or a bomber, so just stop with this whoring argument already (in case you are TRADERS).
secondly, if you want any other interaction than shooting, just stop when you see a message containing stop/halt/cut your engines/etc and your name in it. its hard to scan your cargo and make a demand if someone is 3k away from you and you need to dodge mines and asteroids. also - let me ask you: do you stop when a military/police character tells you to? you do. and after that you can roleplay with him.
if you DONT stop when i ask you to, i tend to shoot you more after i catch you. if you dont TALK when i stop you, i dont have a reason to try to rp with you, do i?
Presents on the last roll call (jokes threw away) :
Espi
Karolis
Curios
Grimly
Tony
Desu
Berny
Pedro
Slayer
HurricaneX
Devata
Tivak
Hoplite
Jongleur
Gabriel
Deimos
Mejor_amigo
In Hawaii :
Artur.Gomez
Lonestar
RedDog
James.Scott (If you read it James, we kicked you out of our skype channels by error, PM us to come back)
Promoted to Sailor :
Devata
Deimos
Desu
Tony
Pedro
Gabriel
@A.Ocampo : You give no name for we can just even get the context of your accusations. Decide yourself to give more details or stop leaving your thoughts based on nothing other people can appreciate. This incident, until new informations are given, is closed and over.
' Wrote:Just a question, that somehow always bothered me, going back to the OPG times:
How come you don't use hispanic names, but coded/forum ones instead?
Since it doesn't change anything of our interactions, I see no problems with our actual names.
I don't think that my 2 year old character is making that much trouble.
A full freedom is given here.
' Wrote:concerning 'pvp', its not fun (OR A CHALLENGE) at all to kill your transport in a ptrans or a bomber, so just stop with this whoring argument already (in case you are TRADERS).
secondly, if you want any other interaction than shooting, just stop when you see a message containing stop/halt/cut your engines/etc and your name in it. its hard to scan your cargo and make a demand if someone is 3k away from you and you need to dodge mines and asteroids. also - let me ask you: do you stop when a military/police character tells you to? you do. and after that you can roleplay with him.
if you DONT stop when i ask you to, i tend to shoot you more after i catch you. if you dont TALK when i stop you, i dont have a reason to try to rp with you, do i?
YOU SAYING HALT Wrote:stop/halt
See the problem here is that you are taking me as if I will some LOL trader just flaming at you, which I am not. You proved to your own self you do not have the concept that HALT/STOP is not a demand, even though you are going to sit here and try to convince me other wise, which will not happen. I will, and always do proper RP when being stopped by EITHER a lawful or unlawful force, but nevertheless, you shooting and yelling HALT/STOP is not a valid command.
OFFICIAL SEVER RULE HALT DOES NOT COUNT - letter made bigge Wrote:6.6 Aggressors are not allowed to destroy a trade vessel prior to issuing a demand and allowing sufficient time to respond. Demands may be cargo, credits or an RP demand, such as leaving the system. "Halt" is not a demand.
' Wrote:See the problem here is that you are taking me as if I will some LOL trader just flaming at you, which I am not. You proved to your own self you do not have the concept that HALT/STOP is not a demand, even though you are going to sit here and try to convince me other wise, which will not happen. I will, and always do proper RP when being stopped by EITHER a lawful or unlawful force, but nevertheless, you shooting and yelling HALT/STOP is not a valid command.
"Cut your engines, gringo, before I haven't started fire" is enought to open fire and take dowon your hull nearly to zero. And only then make a demand. Before you continue to missinterprate rules I suggest to read this. Take a close look at Joe and Larry part. I rest my case.
' Wrote:"Cut your engines, gringo, before I haven't started fire" is enought to open fire and take dowon your hull nearly to zero. And only then make a demand. Before you continue to missinterprate rules I suggest to read this. Take a close look at Joe and Larry part. I rest my case.
You might want to look closer at the Joe and Larry part:
Quote:Joe - "Larry, Cut your engines and hold it."
Larry doesn't do anything. Pablo now CD's Larry. (Note that at this point still no attack has taken place.)
Pablo - "My friend, I think it would be in your best interest to quit moving." (And at least the minimum RP requirements have now been met.)
Larry doesn't do anything. Joe and Pablo now strip Larry's shields and take down half of Larry's hull.
Joe - "Larry, it's time for you to pay us each 1 million credits for ... tax." (Demands have now been made.)
Joe and Pablo wait long enough for Larry to respond. (You MUST give the guy a chance to type something.)
Larry still doesn't do anything, so Joe and Pablo incinerate him. (Larry was a bit stubborn.)
"Cut your engines, gringo, before I haven't started fire" equates to "Larry, cut your engines and hold it." in the example.
You will notice that Joe & Pablo didn't burn through Larry's hull when he didn't do what they said. They further interacted:
Pablo - "My friend, I think it would be in your best interest to quit moving." (And at least the minimum RP requirements have now been met.)
Notice the bold part. Simply telling saying "Cut your engines, gringo, before I haven't started fire" doesn't meet the minimum RP requirements of this server. Stop the trader and RP with him further, if he doens't comply then you can burn him to an inch of his life.