' Wrote:Okay, I'm entering into this one because I'm part of the admin team, and not acting making comments as a Guildmaster / player.
First off, I'm not locking the thread at this point. Why? Well, the comments, both constructive and argumentative, should give you some idea how your sense of Role-Play is being received by others on the server. If you want to do this, you need to be prepared to accept both the positive as well as the negative. If you can't accept that a lot of people have issues with your role-play - then perhaps you need to rethink things.
Secondly, as an Admin, I have issues with your whole ... set-up. You are effectively setting yourself up as a Phantom or Terrorist - without actually going through the Admin process of being approved with that faction or ID. You state that you are neutral to Corsairs and hostile to everyone else - you're out to collect the souls of people. How is that different from a Terrorist ID or a Phantom? I seriously would like an explanation on that before this process continues any further.
Also, please do not make disparging comments regarding A&L guy. The man works with us to help run things, and to keep them going smoothily.
sometimes doing a little homework helps loads, I released an Intro to Ghost RP feature called the "Underworld Lore"
Doc Holliday was asking similar questions, heres what I told him:
' Wrote:I respect your memories of us were bad. And your absolutely right the Spagna, Spiegel acted inappropriately and against the will of the Underworld Lords by killing any and everything that moved even innocent civilians like zoners and so on. I intend for this Lore to be written as if it were written by the Lords of the Underworld in response to the Bad things the Spagna did. The Lore will limit the actions of all Ghost Ships acting on behalf of the underworld, for e.g. Ghost.Ships are Souls of dead Corsair Ships / Pilots therefore Ghosts will only be permitted to collect the souls of Corsair Enemies ie Outcasts etc will be the main targets... All civilians will not be harmed including Zoners, all civilian POIS ie Zoner bases etc will be no go areas for ghosts! We will limit contact with those that are not of interest, and will remain as remote as possible from those who will not be harmed so Etna Base in Omicron Eta will our new home. If you look at my sig youll see Im still flying the Spagna but as punishment for the havoc wreaked on innocent civilians, the spagna has been permanently demoted to Centurion HF. All this will be explained in the LORE, Capships will be restricted to Ghosts, you'll see more Ghost Fighters / Bombers and less Osirises. This I hope will show the Renewed RP Intent of the Ghost.Ship group.
The Underworld Lore will effectively be the Faction Proposal and Law of the Ghost Ship group, Im gonna overhaul everything youll see. What you have seen so far is only a snippet of the Lore in Progress. Have faith Doc:D
We shall be corsairs at home away from home, even going to gamma will be a rare occurrence as there are no souls there to collect, except for instance if gamma is invaded then we would return.
We intend to take the Corsair / Outcast War right to the Outcast Frontdoor, we shall do the jobs other corsairs fear.
Now we are NOT a terrorist group but a distant corsair faction as such who we kill reflects the Reputations of Corsair Faction all enemies like the BHG, Outcasts and Hessians are very much on the menu and will thus be hunted indiscriminately, since the RP Overhaul Factions like Zoners are now neutral. Even there bases will be no go areas, all shall be explained in the Underworld Lore when I have finalised it
You ignored the entire point of the post Blackwidow, and again have shown why your past faction attempts have failed.
It's pretty simple.
InRP, the people don't like you, you can't dock there.
You can't dock there, you can't repair.
You can't dock there, you can't get a new ship.
You can't dock there, you can't get anything.
Your faction is reliant on being allowed to get your ships from somewhere.
Pissing off everyone means that somewhere becomes nowhere, leaving you with no ships inRP and no doubt a shift to Bastille because of it.
It's happened before to the Armageddon folks, they all got dumped in Bastille as they couldn't, inRP, support their ships.
It's a very very simple point that others grasp easily it seems.
You NEED some people to like you.
Your RP REQUIRES that help.
You cannot RP to your hearts content if your ships are in Bastille.
' Wrote:You ignored the entire point of the post Blackwidow, and again have shown why your past faction attempts have failed.
It's pretty simple.
InRP, the people don't like you, you can't dock there.
You can't dock there, you can't repair.
You can't dock there, you can't get a new ship.
You can't dock there, you can't get anything.
What ppl ?? We are corsairs and as such only dock on corsairs bases, as is our right if we are not killing ppl who are beneficial to the corsair nation but just its enemies. There is no one to stop us docking!
This is why I ignored your post as "the people" your actually talking about who hate us is you, so what are you babbling on about ?:wacko:
' Wrote:sometimes doing a little homework helps loads, I released an Intro to Ghost RP feature called the "Underworld Lore"
Doc Holliday was asking similar questions, heres what I told him:
Now we are NOT a terrorist group but a distant corsair faction as such who we kill reflects the Reputations of Corsair Faction all enemies like the BHG, Outcasts and Hessians are very much on the menu and will thus be hunted indiscriminately, since the RP Overhaul Factions like Zoners are now neutral. Even there bases will be no go areas, all shall be explained in the Underworld Lore when I have finalised it
What you fail to understand or realize is that I have read these items. I was not impressed by them - or by the arguments that you were presenting there. We already have a 'ghost' faction on here - the Phantoms.
What you also fail to understand is that Doc is a forum moderator, not a server admin. So while he can have concerns by your actions and words here on the forums - I am concerned by your actions both here AND in game.
You're walking, talking, and quacking like a duck. Right now I'm calling it a duck. I'm also going to suggest and recommend that you dock your ships until you actually figure out what you want to be. Get your forum RP figured out, and let us know then.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
' Wrote:What you fail to understand or realize is that I have read these items. I was not impressed by them - or by the arguments that you were presenting there. We already have a 'ghost' faction on here - the Phantoms.
What you also fail to understand is that Doc is a forum moderator, not a server admin. So while he can have concerns by your actions and words here on the forums - I am concerned by your actions both here AND in game.
You're walking, talking, and quacking like a duck. Right now I'm calling it a duck. I'm also going to suggest and recommend that you dock your ships until you actually figure out what you want to be. Get your forum RP figured out, and let us know then.
We have already stated what we want to be, if you dont like it there is nothing I can do about that.
Any Forum RP will be an elaboration of what has been given so far
' Wrote: We already have a 'ghost' faction on here - the Phantoms.
Phantoms are not a Ghost Faction, they are a Pseudo Crazy Terrorist Group as given by the wiki discription
"The Phantoms are a small terrorist organization, utilizing advanced technology and vicious tactics to achieve their objective. Stated goals are the elimination of the corrupt House governments, although rumors persist of darker motives. The Phantoms are feared even by pirate groups with whom they contact to get supplies, resources, and information."
No where does it say they are ghosts, maybe cyborg humans or what not but phantoms are nothing like the Ghost Ship faction as we ARE GHOSTS thats the difference, but ghosts loyal to the corsair nation so we cannot be perceived as terrorists although we fuel fear as propaganda to enhance our Immortal Souls.
' Wrote:This is gonna end up in bastille or a forced disband...
It's poor. And the people behind it seem to be stubborn and childish if I may sao so.
We have broken no rules or done anything in game to warrant such punishment, why are you so negative?
If we were anything like the -Rangers- Faction then I would understand they were pvp mongers who killed everything. I have just stated over and over, we are a corsair group and RP under the Reputation sheet of corsairs.
everytime I come to Disco ppl make the simplest concepts, the most complex problem known to man are you for real?
I would just like to point out to all you people who are talking about them not having anywhere to dock, with Carlos on an extended vacation, I am the only Corsair faction leader present. I am the only person in rp who can say they cant dock on Corsair bases, and guess what? I haven't yet. So all you folks telling them how they cant dock anywhere, how bout you check with the H.C.I.C. (Head Corsair In Charge) If I feel like it comes to a point where they cant dock anymore, I will faction right 5 them, as that hasn't happened, that means they still have permission from the Corsairs to dock.
Also I think many people here, (including some admins) are letting their personal feelings get in the way of the consistency of their arguments. Oh no they F1'ed in 56? Well see the problem with that little argument is that if they had f1ed within range, you would have had them sanctioned (which would have been appropriate) but you didn't, which means they didn't f1 out in range, and as has been explained many many many times on this forum, F1ing out in space with no one else in range is NOT against the rules. I dont see why we have 2 admins suggesting that this was somehow wrong? No one seemed to think it was wrong when it was done by the SCRA or done by the QCP, or done by the Hogosha for that matter.
So what is different here? It seems to me that what is different here is that people dont -like- this group. To be very honest, I dont like the rp much either, but that doesn't mean that people should hold this group to a different standard then others. Athenian, Agmen, until such time as you are going to start criticizing other groups and factions for F1ing out in hostile space with no one around, I think you shouldn't criticize this group for it.
In the end, I see people trying to say this group has broken rules, which does not seem to be the truth of the matter. You dont like their rp? Fine, there are lots of groups rp on this server who's rp I dont like, that doesnt give me the right to say they shouldnt do it. If they are playing the game within the rules of the server, let them play whatever rp they want. There are no ghosts in Sirius, but apparently there are jokers and CS, and all sorts of other unique rp, that is allowed to carry on, why not this?
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