' Wrote:What ppl ?? We are corsairs and as such only dock on corsairs bases, as is our right if we are not killing ppl who are beneficial to the corsair nation but just its enemies. There is no one to stop us docking!
That means You need to listen to the official factions covering the Corsairs, and not try to get around their inquiries about why you are violating Corsairs rules as given by the Corsairs Elders, regarding the Cap ships zone of operations.
As far as I've been told, when you were queried by a Corsairs Elders member about what a Corsair Osiris was doing in Omega 56, in violation of the orders from the Corsair Elders, your reply was "This is an order ship".
Despite the fact that your ship mounted a Corsair Guard ID, and transmits a Corsair IFF.
And don't give me crap about the Osiris is an Order ship - It is sold by both the Order and the Corsairs. The mounted ID designates its affiliation. And you know that.
So care to explain the reason why you tried to avoid a possible in-rp repercussion by the Corsair Elders, by telling something that you knew wasn't true ?
' Wrote:That means You need to listen to the official factions covering the Corsairs, and not try to get around their inquiries about why you are violating Corsairs rules as given by the Corsairs Elders, regarding the Cap ships zone of operations.
As far as I've been told, when you were queried by a Corsairs Elders member about what a Corsair Osiris was doing in Omega 56, in violation of the orders from the Corsair Elders, your reply was "This is an order ship".
Despite the fact that your ship mounted a Corsair Guard ID, and transmits a Corsair IFF.
And don't give me crap about the Osiris is an Order ship - It is sold by both the Order and the Corsairs. The mounted ID designates its affiliation. And you know that.
So care to explain the reason why you tried to avoid a possible in-rp repercussion by the Corsair Elders, by telling something that you knew wasn't true ?
' Wrote:That means You need to listen to the official factions covering the Corsairs, and not try to get around their inquiries about why you are violating Corsairs rules as given by the Corsairs Elders, regarding the Cap ships zone of operations.
As far as I've been told, when you were queried by a Corsairs Elders member about what a Corsair Osiris was doing in Omega 56, in violation of the orders from the Corsair Elders, your reply was "This is an order ship".
Despite the fact that your ship mounted a Corsair Guard ID, and transmits a Corsair IFF.
And don't give me crap about the Osiris is an Order ship - It is sold by both the Order and the Corsairs. The mounted ID designates its affiliation. And you know that.
So care to explain the reason why you tried to avoid a possible in-rp repercussion by the Corsair Elders, by telling something that you knew wasn't true ?
A & L Guy
Im not in control of the Ghost Ship osiris and neither do I have one anymore. I do not believe that the Ghost Osiris said "This is an order ship" and neither did we violate Corsair elder rules in relation to Capship ZOIs.
As I understand it The Ghost Ship Osiris was chasing two Hunter Dessies that had desicrated sacred corsair burial grounds in Omega 7 looking for Intelligence stored on the burial ships. As such the two dessies proceeded to return to Hunter Space to relay the intel they had retrieved, but saw the Osiris coming so they proceeded to omega 56. Where by the commander of the ghost osiris deemed in the best interest of the corsairs to kill the two offending Hunter Dessies, retrieve the Souls of their crews and the intel they had recovered.
Zelot, it's not about breaking rules. no one ever said that. The F1-ing, meh. if RL calls, RL calls. can't say what the reason for the F1 was. but that isn't important in this discussion.
When I mentioned bastille and forced disband, I meant the way this 'faction' is going. It's a trainwreck waiting to happen. I can't put it in any other, more subtle way.
If it's not for the (imho) extremely shallow out of place rp it's the mentallity of the folks who want to make this a faction. If you can't take feedback, don't try to make a faction. your conduct and replies in this thread make me worry even more than the actual rp you want to use.
you can't just bulldozer on saying 'we will do what we want because we haven't broken any rules' ignoring the feeback from other members of the community.
Zelot is right. So long as they don't break rules, they should be allowed to play as they want. That is the bare minimum needed to play on the server. But it's a pretty low standard - one would expect something a little bit more than the bare minimum but I'll live with that.
However, my posts were made as a player. I have no intention of not posting on topics that concern my faction directly.
Here's the problem. Logging in and out of a guard system means you get to play entirely on your own terms and no one else's. That's not playing. That's escaping the consequences of invading that system. Logging out when there's no one around because travelling four systems to a dockable base is one thing; here there is no need. There's a junker base in Omega 15 and a Freeport in 41. Both within easy range. If you want to pick off players doing missions by all means lauch your attacks from there.
Science fiction =/= paranormal. At least in my book. Coming soon: a poltergeist appears on a Corsair Legate and starts hitting the fire button at random Corsairs passing within Crete's orbit. If you can move through walls, there's not much can stop you, am I right?
' Wrote:I do not believe that the Ghost Osiris said "This is an order ship" and neither did we violate Corsair elder rules in relation to Capship ZOIs.
Trust me, he did, and on a direct query from a Corsair Elders member.
' Wrote:Okay, I'm entering into this one because I'm part of the admin team, and not acting making comments as a Guildmaster / player.
First off, I'm not locking the thread at this point. Why? Well, the comments, both constructive and argumentative, should give you some idea how your sense of Role-Play is being received by others on the server. If you want to do this, you need to be prepared to accept both the positive as well as the negative. If you can't accept that a lot of people have issues with your role-play - then perhaps you need to rethink things.
Secondly, as an Admin, I have issues with your whole ... set-up. You are effectively setting yourself up as a Phantom or Terrorist - without actually going through the Admin process of being approved with that faction or ID. You state that you are neutral to Corsairs and hostile to everyone else - you're out to collect the souls of people. How is that different from a Terrorist ID or a Phantom? I seriously would like an explanation on that before this process continues any further.
Also, please do not make disparging comments regarding A&L guy. The man works with us to help run things, and to keep them going smoothily.
Hello everyone :D
First this is to Mr. Agmen, you invite me into the Phantoms and ill scrap this whole Ghost.Ship thing! but we all know thats never going to happen. I know we relate to them quite a bit and that wasnt really the plan but i can see know where the phantoms may have evolved from. So think about please i would love to join.
as for people not liking us all i have to say is iam sorry but we are trying to have fun and do new things like everyone else. My intentions are not to create enimies but to build on FL game play. Iam sorry if you are upset with us or dislike our RP. I really hate the negativity but non-theless it will only help our RP.
And that was me in Omega 56 and i was Hunting these BHG for a few systems, when i herd the were buying new ship (from inside informate) i took it apon myself to test there skill. if it was me in a new dessie i would have been like "yes a Ghost.Ship lets test these new guns crew" but thats just me i guess.
I respect all the community members and only ask the same in return.
' Wrote:Zelot, it's not about breaking rules. no one ever said that. The F1-ing, meh. if RL calls, RL calls. can't say what the reason for the F1 was. but that isn't important in this discussion.
When I mentioned bastille and forced disband, I meant the way this 'faction' is going. It's a trainwreck waiting to happen. I can't put it in any other, more subtle way.
If it's not for the (imho) extremely shallow out of place rp it's the mentallity of the folks who want to make this a faction. If you can't take feedback, don't try to make a faction. your conduct and replies in this thread make me worry even more than the actual rp you want to use.
you can't just bulldozer on saying 'we will do what we want because we haven't broken any rules' ignoring the feeback from other members of the community.
There is more to a faction than that.
Dash, I have taken a look back over the thread again, just to make sure I was remembering it right, and I think its pretty clear it's the community who set the hostile tone with the ghosts and not the other way around.
Page 1: Story, hey you need to fix this in your diplomacy. Sure no problem, more diplomacy fixes. Cam comes in with screen shots from 8 months ago.
Page 2: You shouldnt use this ID. What ID should we use. None you cant do it. Jokes at the Ghosts expense.
Page 3: No one likes you, your not going to have any freinds, you cant dock anywhere. (Plus this gem from Alteris) "
Dont expect me RP with the Ghost. I dont care how much you wanna RP it. Im not gonna claim you as a ghost. That bullcrap doesn't belongs into Discovery. It doesnt belongs into Freelancer as whole."Page 4: (mind you not a harsh word toward anyone from the Ghosts.) YOU CANT DO THIS. GHOSTS IN SPACE? NO WAY! LULZY PIC LULZY PIC. Now, If I was trying to do something, and all I got was people telling me there is no possible way to make it work and I cant do it, and people outright making fun of the work I put into it, I would get a bit peeved as well, and to be perfectly honest, Outlaw Star is handling it with much more composure then I would have.
Edit: Yep, you can be damn sure if that was my post above, it would contain quite a bit more hostility then Outlaw Stars. Your rp might not be for me, but Kudos for being able to handle everything thats being thrown at you, the warranted criticisms and the unwarranted flames.
' Wrote:i herd the were buying new ship (from inside informate) i took it apon myself to test there skill.
Someone in the BHG told you that other guys were setting up new ships? So you took it upon yourself to fly into our Guard system, fight these guys and switch to your Arms Dealer immmediately afterwards when you saw the other ships logging in to come after you?
I despair of this game, I really do. You want respect from people, try demonstrating a little.
But hey, you're not breaking any rules. So that's cool.
edit: You won't find BHG posting until after our recent encounter. I won't speak for what others posted.
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