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Hierophant
05-12-2012, 11:02 PM,
#411
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Quote:Remove anything bigger than gunboats from vendors.
Remove anything bigger than gunboats from players, turn them into weaponless starfliers, with of course compensation paid.
Add shipyard modules to player bases, accessible at core level 4, taking up 2-3 slots.
Add resource requirements for all kinds of vessels of the same size or bigger than gunboats.
Add scrapping ability to shipyards: 40% of all resources can be returned upon ship change.
Add ability to set faction shipline manually (got no clue by which could the system check for an appropriate one). Given the few bases, admins could check those, moreover, make an extended sheet of player bases indicating location(system), core level and/or presence of shipyard, accessible only for them. This is to filter unreasonable tech line choices. (No turtles being produced on a shipyard deep within Liberty.)

All power to the gangs and let the most real-life-less and meanest get everything and those who aren't in a gang get nothing?

No thanks.

That really WOULD be the final nail.
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Offline Trail
05-12-2012, 11:07 PM,
#412
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make the server into more pvp? time to find another server.....

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Offline Thyrzul
05-12-2012, 11:20 PM,
#413
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' Wrote:All power to the gangs and let the most real-life-less and meanest get everything and those who aren't in a gang get nothing?

No thanks.

That really WOULD be the final nail.
Real-lifeless and meanest? So that's how you see people dedicating a bit more of their free time into playing on and forming the game? That's how you see active, or let's say, official factions? Pretty much thanks.

My idea was to reduce the amount of capships and the lolwuttery coming from their high amount, without restricting their usage and encouraging teamwork.

As far as I know Discovery RP 24/7 is a RolePlay server, and roleplay includes player interactions. It's a pity that not everybody choses interactions over going solo.

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Offline Fifty.
05-12-2012, 11:21 PM,
#414
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' Wrote:make the server into more pvp? time to find another server.....
See ya tomorrow.
I hate such players bitching about this. ADAPT.

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Offline Escartes
05-12-2012, 11:24 PM,
#415
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I don't really mind Pirates using cruisers that does not change a whole lot since any gunboat or bomber out there can down any transport in the game pretty fast. Only problem that I see with this is taking away the 4 hour rule. There's a lot of traders that run routes and there going to stop playing if they have to wait four hours to run those routes. It just isn't going to be worth it with still having a Real life and all. Docking shouldn't be considered a pvp death because if you actually got lucky enough to get away then good for you. There's no transport in the game that can go toe to toe with a gunboat let along a cap ship so really only chance you have is try to run and dock. You cant fight back any other way. I would like to give an example that happened to me.

Pirate CD's me. I stop.
The pirate tells me he wants 20,000,000 credits to let me go. Mind you the load I have is Basic Alloy so maybe worth 5 mill at the most. On top of that I only had around 18mill left on my transport at the time. I inform the pirate that I can not pay what he asks and I offer my load instead.
Pirate says he doesn't want the load because he does not have the cargo to haul it he wants the credits or I die.
I offered him the credits I had and he said no I want the 20mill
So the pirate destroys my transport because I can not pay.
(Well this was no big deal before because I could resume my route and try to avoid him next time but now if this happens I cant trade in that area for 4 hours.)
This is a problem because there are times with some pirates you simply cant meet there demands and they blow you up because you cant. I also see pirates asking for a lot more now since they can have capital ships. I also see a lot of players either leaving or you will see a big downfall in transports and everyone will be flying bombers and cap ships. No one will be trading anymore. This is really going to hurt overall server RP because the transport companies are a large part of the RP on the server.

So my solution. Make it so the pirates have to ask for reasonable amounts based on your level and your cargo don't ask for 20mill if the cargo is only worth 5mill.
I also think if you offer to jettison your load they should not be allowed to destroy you since the whole reason they are trying to pirate you is because you have a load. This will help out with the transports not having to wait 4 hours. I know if I cant pay the demand I would jettison my load rather then wait 4 hours to be able to trade again. Just an idea if you don't want to keep the 4 hour exemption. The rule still needs to be modified some so you don't lose the Transport companies and there RP. Thanks for keeping Freelancer going it is one of the greatest games around.
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Offline Deriguz
05-12-2012, 11:25 PM,
#416
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' Wrote:See ya tomorrow.
I hate such players bitching about this. ADAPT.
Lold
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Offline Curios
05-12-2012, 11:26 PM,
#417
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Posts: 2,719
Threads: 88
Joined: Sep 2009

' Wrote:Remove anything bigger than gunboats from vendors.
Remove anything bigger than gunboats from players, turn them into weaponless starfliers, with of course compensation paid.
Add shipyard modules to player bases, accessible at core level 4, taking up 2-3 slots.
Add resource requirements for all kinds of vessels of the same size or bigger than gunboats.
Add scrapping ability to shipyards: 40% of all resources can be returned upon ship change.
Add ability to set faction shipline manually (got no clue by which could the system check for an appropriate one). Given the few bases, admins could check those, moreover, make an extended sheet of player bases indicating location(system), core level and/or presence of shipyard, accessible only for them. This is to filter unreasonable tech line choices. (No turtles being produced on a shipyard deep within Liberty.)

LOLNO

In your wet dreams along with the CD removal from the cruisers.

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Offline Curios
05-12-2012, 11:27 PM,
#418
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Threads: 88
Joined: Sep 2009

' Wrote:bla bla

Just file a report if you think that it was just an abuse to have a kill, he'll get sanctioned. End of story.

Next!

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Offline Niverlare
05-12-2012, 11:29 PM,
#419
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Posts: 2,902
Threads: 140
Joined: Feb 2010

Awh ye, Scylla piracy. Seriously though, it sounds fun, but I'm sure the whining will start soon enough.

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Offline Guyton
05-12-2012, 11:36 PM,
#420
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Posts: 383
Threads: 48
Joined: Dec 2006

' Wrote:I don't really mind Pirates using cruisers that does not change a whole lot since any gunboat or bomber out there can down any transport in the game pretty fast. Only problem that I see with this is taking away the 4 hour rule. There's a lot of traders that run routes and there going to stop playing if they have to wait four hours to run those routes. It just isn't going to be worth it with still having a Real life and all. Docking shouldn't be considered a pvp death because if you actually got lucky enough to get away then good for you. There's no transport in the game that can go toe to toe with a gunboat let along a cap ship so really only chance you have is try to run and dock. You cant fight back any other way. I would like to give an example that happened to me.

Pirate CD's me. I stop.
The pirate tells me he wants 20,000,000 credits to let me go. Mind you the load I have is Basic Alloy so maybe worth 5 mill at the most. On top of that I only had around 18mill left on my transport at the time. I inform the pirate that I can not pay what he asks and I offer my load instead.
Pirate says he doesn't want the load because he does not have the cargo to haul it he wants the credits or I die.
I offered him the credits I had and he said no I want the 20mill
So the pirate destroys my transport because I can not pay.
(Well this was no big deal before because I could resume my route and try to avoid him next time but now if this happens I cant trade in that area for 4 hours.)
This is a problem because there are times with some pirates you simply cant meet there demands and they blow you up because you cant. I also see pirates asking for a lot more now since they can have capital ships. I also see a lot of players either leaving or you will see a big downfall in transports and everyone will be flying bombers and cap ships. No one will be trading anymore. This is really going to hurt overall server RP because the transport companies are a large part of the RP on the server.

So my solution. Make it so the pirates have to ask for reasonable amounts based on your level and your cargo don't ask for 20mill if the cargo is only worth 5mill.
I also think if you offer to jettison your load they should not be allowed to destroy you since the whole reason they are trying to pirate you is because you have a load. This will help out with the transports not having to wait 4 hours. I know if I cant pay the demand I would jettison my load rather then wait 4 hours to be able to trade again. Just an idea if you don't want to keep the 4 hour exemption. The rule still needs to be modified some so you don't lose the Transport companies and there RP. Thanks for keeping Freelancer going it is one of the greatest games around.

Agreed. Traders are already punished since things are slowly turning to being unrealistic RP. It takes a trader hours on the lanes to get steady profit going. Being forced to leave for 4 hours to follow PvP rules in a non PvP ship just isn't fair to the common trader. Especially those just starting now trying to get the feel of Roleplay and understanding the community.

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