As for bomber wings, as mentioned by Khan in our message dump.
It is the preferred strategy of the SCRA, that when we are confronted by large number of capital ships that we utilize bombers in exactly the manner unto which they were designed.
The fact that we can muster enough bombers to accomplish this, in defense of our guard system, is one of the strengths of the SCRA.
Khan did nothing wrong in ordering this, as he was repeating a similar order used by Koolmo approximately a year ago when the Corsairs attempted something similar with a Legate fleet.
Now that we have adequately proven that we have done nothing wrong, can we get back to our game? After all, this was supposed to be fun.
It's really not far fetched. It's not just the fact that you moved Capitals into Orkney, but that you moved Capitals to Orkney WHILE gathering information about the SCRA that made us suspect things. Not to mention how aggressive you are and how you'd want revenge for our recent attacks on the Core.
You edited it after I posted.
Quote:Oh and because we have a lot of ships in Delta we are going to attack your home in the Omegas? Uhh... We are fighting a war in Delta, or do your pilots just ignore this fact?
I never said that. I merely took numbers of the ships in Delta who were THEN reported as being in Gallia. Logic would dictate that the numbers I took in Delta would roughly be the numbers you had in Orkney at that point.
Our moving capital ships to Orkney is not because we want to gather information about you, that is only a secondary objective, the primary objective is to find out as much as we can about Gallia its self.
And the whole 'bomber defense' thing is pretty irrelevant, the problem is that you seem to know exactly where we are sending our ships before those ships have even left Dabadoru.
I wasn't informed of anything until after the Havana was tangling with things in Delta.
After being knocked out of that fight, we moved ships into position, and were working out what to do about the BHG fleet that was on the move (as the rather substantial string of death messages scrawling across our screen was evidencing) Considering that just yesterday we shot down one of your battlecruisers, it isn't a stretch to expect attack...
in fact we were quite surprised when it went to Gallia, relieved even... then the Maquis messages...
Quote:Our moving capital ships to Orkney is not because we want to gather information about you, that is only a secondary objective, the primary objective is to find out as much as we can about Gallia its self.
Well we didn't know that, now did we? All we knew is that you were in Orkney looking for our "Operatives". Now, we don't know for CERTAIN you're attacking, but we have very strong suspicions and are taking the proper steps to defend our homes should our suspicions prove correct.
' Wrote:I wasn't informed of anything until after the Havana was tangling with things in Delta.
After being knocked out of that fight, we moved ships into position, and were working out what to do about the BHG fleet that was on the move (as the rather substantial string of death messages scrawling across our screen was evidencing) Considering that just yesterday we shot down one of your battlecruisers, it isn't a stretch to expect attack...
in fact we were quite surprised when it went to Gallia, relieved even... then the Maquis messages...
The Core has (in RP, TCG, in RP) hundreds upon hundreds of Battlecruisers at its disposal, and we are far too busy fighting a long, drawn out war with the Order to care about revenge for a ship that is easily replaced.
Also, you seem to believe that destroying the SCRA or going to Gallia are Core primary objectives. They aren't, we really couldn't care less about the SCRA when they are not in Delta, the war with the Order takes precedence over everything. And on top of that, the small fleet that was headed to Orkney never went in the direction of o52, and even if it did, there weren't that many ships, so we wouldn't be attacking you, so saying that you knew we were going to come and attack your home system with a small fleet that couldn't do that much damage, and that never went anywhere near your system, is just ridiculous.
I really can't be bothered arguing with people who will use any excuse to justify their wrongdoings, face it, you metagamed because our ships had not even left port by the time your people were posting about how the BHG are coming to get you. To be honest, while you guys always seem really good in-game, its crap like this that lets you down.
You can argue all you like, I've said all I want to say.
Edit: And one final point, from what I understand, the whole Delta thing last night was supposed to be a faction event, between the BHG, The Keepers and one or two others, when you crash events like these to which you are not invited, and get a bunch of TCG Osirises to help you crash it, and ruin it for a number of people, it doesn't shine you in a good light at all (ask A&Lguy about what I mean, he'll give you a much better idea than I could, as I wasn't present).
' Wrote:To be honest, while you guys always seem really good in-game, its crap like this that lets you down.
This quote is probably the one quote that describes all feedback given to the SCRA all throughout this year. Perhaps this time the feedback will be taken to heart, but my experiences tells me otherwise.
' Wrote:The Core has hundreds upon hundreds of Battlecruisers at its disposal, and we are far too busy fighting a long, drawn out war with the Order to care about revenge for a ship that is easily replaced.
We don't know how many ships the Core has. You have to understand that the Coalition assumes that all the enemies Capital ships are precious because we're taught that our own capital ships are precious. It's not unreasonable to assume you'd avenge your ships if we thought you valued your vessels.
' Wrote:Also, you seem to believe that destroying the SCRA or going to Gallia are Core primary objectives. They aren't, we really couldn't care less about the SCRA when they are not in Delta, the war with the Order takes precedence over everything.
We don't "believe" anything. We were merely going on information received from the Maquis. That information only stated that you were looking for our men. It never said anything else, so logically we would assume you were there purely for us.
When you look at it through the eyes of the Coalition, everything we've done is reasonable.
Quote:Edit: And one final point, the whole Delta thing last night was supposed to be a faction event, between the BHG, The Keepers and one or two others, when you crash events like these to which you are not invited, and get a bunch of TCG Osirises to help you crash it, and ruin it for a number of people, it doesn't shine you in a good light at all (ask A&Lguy about what I mean, he'll give you a much better idea than I could, as I wasn't present).
Eh? And you expect us to know every little thing you do? First, I had no idea this was a "faction event". News to me, that's for sure. You assume that -WE- organized the assault. We didn't, but we moved in to reinforce our allies. Next time you have a Faction Event, damn well inform the community aye?
As a Zoner, we're already assuming bad things about yesterday. If you had told us it was a "faction event" there would be no problems, now would there? As it stands, you did no such thing.
you are entitled to your opinion, we have defended our position, and provided the evidence to back it up.
I am still waiting for any evidence to the contrary aside from your suspicions.
We have stated, repeatedly, why we believed an attack was imminent. Now why are you having a go at us, for what the Maquis informed us? I suggest if you really want to vent your anger at having your grand plan you belly up, you take it to the right people.
And in future, if you have a grand plan, we would appreciate it if your leadership contacts us directly to discuss the matter, as is protocol in events of this nature.
We endavoured to play along with a plot line that was thrust upon us, but it appears that the moment we actually set up a defense to a battle-group storming our guard system, you have an issue with this. Funny how that works.
' Wrote:This sounds pretty much like a very weak excuse for metagaming our (encrypted) comm messages.
Oh and because we have a lot of ships in Delta we are going to attack your home in the Omegas? Uhh... We are fighting a war in Delta, or do your pilots just ignore this fact?
Really? Then why not fight a war in Delta lastnight? Instead you flee.
' Wrote:The Core has hundreds upon hundreds of Battlecruisers at its disposal, and we are far too busy fighting a long, drawn out war with the Order to care about revenge for a ship that is easily replaced.
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