' Wrote:... but you're defending yourselves. You should be shooting Corsairs. Or, you should be trying to get a diplomatic solution. Not packing up and leaving.
I mean, if you're not trying to defend your principles then what message will that send to other groups in the Omicrons?
To summarize: Sweden wouldn't stop playing a game, because you know, that's real life. Then again, maybe you should act like real life Sweden and fight back.
Quote: Had you during this time when we made our first attacks, only once attempted to deliver food and got consequently shot down, sent the evidence from the event to the Corsairs. We would have been screwed royally.
As far I know ZTC leaders contacted Corsairs about [A] but Corsairs authorities did not respond.
Quote:And what you don't get is that once you shot at us in Omega-3, allied with RHA/GMG/SCRA/OC/Order the food issue ceased to be the only issue.
So you recognize that the food story was not sufficient to attack zoners?
' Wrote:I have Corsair characters, sir. I have Nomad characters. I PLAY OTHER FACTIONS.
I am pissed off because there is so much disrespect on this server from veteran players TOWARD veteran players, that's its difficult to breathe.
Am I suppose to believe that folks like Doc Holiday, Malaclypse, Jinx, Lou, Charles, Johann, Victor Cross, etc etc have all somehow screwed up one of the most difficult RP roles in Discovery? Are you kidding me?? Do any of you even have the slightest inkling of how difficult it has been to roleplay in a Zoner faction for the year that I have been a part of it?
People all around the server try. They have tried very hard. People like Doc have lost sleep because they went a little too far. It's a game, sure. But do you seriously think that insulting other players like that and taking multiple years of RP work and calling it rubbish and then being THANKFULL that folks are leaving -- do you think this helps make Discovery something less than frusteration?
Still the most important post of the thread.
I'll be keeping an eye on the rest of it.
"Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson. They will, in fact, calm up."
Quote:Am I suppose to believe that folks like Doc Holiday, Malaclypse, Jinx, Lou, Charles, Johann, Victor Cross, etc etc have all somehow screwed up one of the most difficult RP roles in Discovery?
Maybe some people so used to their policy that they thinked that they course of their actions is all good and okey? So run with it all the time.
Thus attempts to contact zoner player base in those two years to say that something is not okey was ingored with "Do not dictate our rp" answer. So now mind your buissnes and do not dictate how should sair playerbase rp a reaction into zoner actions.
' Wrote:Maybe some people so used to their policy that they thinked that they course of their actions is all good and okey? So run with it all the time.
You must be mistaken to believe that there were only some approving a long discussed course. The ZA reached a peak of about 50 players, and regarding all internal critizism we've had to deal with, everything was always refined, refined, refined. You guys don't even know that we're maintaining two separate forums with further 5000 posts, full of considerations and similar stuff. Everything established within one year.
Following up to this ...:
Quote: attempts to contact zoner player base in those two years to say that something is not okey was ingored with "Do not dictate our rp" answer. So now mind your buissnes and do not dictate how should sair playerbase rp a reaction into zoner actions.
... you're only proving that you're far away from being qualified to judge the sitution. I am sorry tell it frankly, but it is not meant as an insult.
I don't take it offensivly. From my point of view you could not in the place to judge too. After all I've been here around longer than you? Does it tells something? - nope. Collective view point consists out of variety of opinions.
There was load of diffrent threads. And only one showed some promise. If I'm not wrong it was made by Kuthammi. (sorry for misspeling if anything). That's again from my perspective.
' Wrote:I don't take it offensivly. From my point of view you could not in the place to judge too. After all I've been here around longer than you? Does it tells something? - nope. Collective view point consists out of variety of opinions.
Also, any "collective" will adhere to standard beliefs and perceptions, while any anomaly will most likely not be understood easily, if ever. Comparing all available roleplaying stereotypes here represented by the NPC factions and non-vanilla player factions it's the Zoners' which provides the least information on the base of emphasizing characters as being strongly individual.
I bet that the average roleplayer needs a tenth of time to elaborate a Corsair character, compared to a Zoner character, and I bet that no player faction is permantly reviewing the roleplay of other factions because Zoners are supposed to be neutral, which implies that they have to deal with all other NPC faction interpretations. The simple truth is that you cannot play a Zoner properly if you are not caring about the RP of other factions. Now, count all factions please.
While it seems to be arrogant for a Zoner player to express the own perception of the counterparts roleplay, still based on a fairly wide ranged and pretty varying amount experience through encounters, I haven't met any player, all Zoner players included, who would be able to define Zoners by a list of, let us say, ten striking attributes.
why are people still arguing about the RP? Just read Zelot's vindictive petty attack on Zoner players and then Agmen's endorsement of it, this is about purging zoner players from the server, it's a type of virtual Nazism.
' Wrote:why are people still arguing about the RP? Just read Zelot's vindictive petty attack on Zoner players and then Agmen's endorsement of it, this is about purging zoner players from the server, it's a type of virtual Nazism.
Bloody hell, a Karlotta sleeper-alt?
Anyway, a bit exaggerated, but there is a nugget of truth somewhere in there.
Also, @ Lohingren;
Good RP, ye.
(smoke)
"Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson. They will, in fact, calm up."
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