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Kusari the C-C-COMBO BREAKER

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Kusari the C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Offline Corsair
09-26-2010, 05:59 PM,
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Well, with the approach of .86, I've been thinking about the Kusari battleship. I'm gonna run a comparison between other Kusari ships.

Wyrm- Light Fighter
6,200 hull
Hussar
6,400 hull
Phantom
6,800 hull

Chimaera
11.8k hull
Templar
14k hull
Wraith
11.5k hull

Umibozu
16.4k hull
Challenger
24.2k hull

Kusari Gunboat
95k hull
Bretonia Gunboat
140k hull

Kusari Destroyer
240k hull
Bretonia Destroyer
355k hull
Rheinland Cruiser
390k hull

Kusari Battleship
1.28m hull
Bretonia battleship
800k hull

Am I the only one bothered by the enourmous break in tradition? Kusari is characteristically light and hard-hitting. The Kusari Battleship shatters that tradition in a way I feel is lore-breaking. I realize it's a vanilla ship, but we're tweaking the Kusari Destroyer, right?

So the question I'm asking is; Is the Kusari BS uncharacteristically heavy enough to warrant a change?

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Offline Curios
09-26-2010, 06:06 PM,
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Vanilla stuff dun tuch kkk? )

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Offline GhostFace
09-26-2010, 06:10 PM,
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I want to say yes, but the Kusari BS compared in size to other BS's like Liberty, Bretonia and Rheinland. Kusarii does have the rather large Battleship which would explain the larger hull.

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Offline Boss
09-26-2010, 06:21 PM,
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You forgot to include Liberty ships and Rheinland bombers.

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Offline Curios
09-26-2010, 06:26 PM,
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well, basically he wanted to say that all kusari shipline sharing the same ideology of small and agile ships with epic exception of battleship. But there is really nothing to do with that because kusari battleship is vanilla one and for remaking (resizing) it tonns of effort must be placed (lowering stats without resizing will not work as well coz Kusari battleship is big enough and very compared to current armor stats). So i'd say - leave it to be like this. There is kusari battlecruiser was proposed somewhere.

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Offline Elven
09-26-2010, 06:32 PM,
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Kusari battleship fullfills roles of carrier at the same time (since fighters are small, you can load enough of those), I guess.
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Offline Denelo
09-26-2010, 06:35 PM,
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' Wrote:There is kusari battlecruiser was proposed somewhere.

Actually, Gurjiv's Kusari Battlecruiser (real battlecruiser, not Imperial Yacht) is actually going to be in .86.

I should know. I hardpointed it six times. D:
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Offline Corsair
09-26-2010, 09:54 PM,
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I agree that there's not all that much we can do with vanilla models, so this is a general "Why, Freelancer Devs, why" thread. 'Guess we just have to go with the Kusari BC for the lighter battleship variant.

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Offline BaconSoda
09-26-2010, 10:34 PM,
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' Wrote:IMHO it is the ideology of the Kusarian culture. Small ships all lead by a large leader.

This guy got it right. If you'd look at the WWII history of Japan, they had some really small ships, and then two exceedingly huge Battleships (Yamato and I forget, it started with an M). In their Naval Air Force, they also had a lot of horrible pilots, then a small pool of exceedingly good pilots. It's really a Kusari thought to have lots of small things lead by a small number of great leaders.

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Offline yurineova
09-27-2010, 01:47 PM,
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mhm, also remember that the vanilla kusari battleship you could easily destroy by destroying it rear "fins" (which would cause the ship's engine to blow off, which then kills the bb)

I killed one in a Orca once in 10 dseconds flat.

But that was a older model, I havent seen one likeit in a while.

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