I am absolutely fine if you track us down once in awhile. I'm absolutely fine if you use it to track us down for the purposes of role play. I'm absolutely fine if you metagame with a reasonable excuse. As we were smuggling counterfeit software to Omega-47, a trip we rarely make, it would be nearly impossible to guess our destination, and your first guy camping in Kyushu never got a look at our cargo.
Did we know you were trying to head us off in California or Magellan? Yes. But we went there anyway. We could have turned off in Cortez to Manchester, but we didn't. Why? Because that's using information my character doesn't have. I personally pride myself on not using such information, but I realize that it's unreasonable to expect it from others. I'm okay with that, depending on intent.
I'm unimpressed not because we got bottled up as a result of it, I had the time of my life. I'm unimpressed because even with ample opportunity, only one of your crew took the opportunity to role play. As I said, kudos to him/her. The very fact that that person was able to easily interject their sense of humor and wit while six Rogues tried to drink themselves to death shows that it could be done.
It's not that you metagame, it's not that you get caught, it's the intent, and how the situation plays out. I had the time of my life, as I said, but my Rogues and I, with all the response we got from you, could have just as easily stayed home.
Hunt us down like we hunt down traders. Not using a playerlist to determine who the biggest fish is. But stopping everyone you can and see where you can get roleplay.
' Wrote:So do you turn down potential members for over personal issues ? :$
No, we just like people with feelings, we don't hide in shadows and you are Black Sail :lol:
And LR for lot of us English is not first language so its hard to follow your RP, i wasn't there last night but i RP-ed with you few times so i know...
' Wrote:Condescension isn't very diplomatic, Casero.
And yeah, we were caught, but at least we stuck around and roleplayed, which I commend Isadora for joining in.
The chase wasn't all that fun, the roleplay was fun.
Your complaint was about the use of the player list, not of the roleplay, and you called me "unfair" for using it, but I needed to point out that blantant or not, you still use it.
Part of the time you were docked drinking, I was dodging NPCs, chatting in local outside the base, explaining over skype to the MNS-Crysis that he can shoot us if he wants to, then shooting the MNS with a bomber and a fighter and that took some time, then I PM'd some of you to set this out in space (which wasn't a trick to shoot you down, since we couldn't stop you from re-docking), but you didn't want to come out to talk a way out. Sorry for not joining your drinking party, but I couldn't find how to fit there.
' Wrote:So do you turn down potential members for over personal issues ? :$
Oh yes. But furthermore, personal issues that I won't like the other MM members having.
Quote:Hunt us down like we hunt down traders. Not using a playerlist to determine who the biggest fish is. But stopping everyone you can and see where you can get roleplay.
We can't hunt down people like you do, we have limitations on who we can fire on. Currently one of our major clients who paid us over 100 million to hire us, asked us to hunt LRs down. How can I do it, if everytime that I get into california the LR-s suddenly disappear? Then I go where the LRs are...
Quote:It's not that you metagame, it's not that you get caught, it's the intent, and how the situation plays out. I had the time of my life, as I said, but my Rogues and I, with all the response we got from you, could have just as easily stayed home.
And Ryeguy, I'm sorry, but, as I said to Kurosaur, I couldn't find how to fit in your RP, maybe Lilian can mix her sense of humor, and keep track of a chat with 8 persons at the same time. I have my limitations with language (You can note it, I use the same words and phrases over and over again), and also I didn't feel like joining in a chat with you... is that a bad way to role my character? Seems for you that it is. Why do everyone have to be drunk, or be funny, or make jokes to be considered that good role play?
Should I say I expected more from you and come out to set the problem with words? But that wouldn't be right, because you don't need to play my way.
Quote:Did we know you were trying to head us off in California or Magellan? Yes. But we went there anyway. We could have turned off in Cortez to Manchester, but we didn't. Why? Because that's using information my character doesn't have. I personally pride myself on not using such information, but I realize that it's unreasonable to expect it from others. I'm okay with that, depending on intent.
Funny, our first guess was that you were heading to Coronado, and I asked Lilian to go to Magellan, and she even questioned me when I told her that, and I started moving there as well... This is the lucky guess, I talked about posts above... as I said, we thought you were going to Alpha, Coronado made more sense, but as in our previous encounter you made us think you were going to A and you turned out to be going to B, is what made me think on Magellan.
Ryeguy, it's cool that you don't use the player list, but as I said, I doubt that you go to pirate in california when LNS's are in that system, or even lawfuls... I'm sorry, but I don't believe it. But I guess that's just a difference of opinions, if you don't really use it, better yet.
I understand that language can be a barrier. Hell, our English when we were speaking certainly wasn't perfect, and I even had trouble following it at times, especially when it broke into multiple discussions. But I do my best. Attempting counts for something. I've been in many situations where this was a problem, but the line gets drawn between those that try, and those that don't.
Role play doesn't have to be funny. Often times, we are far from the funny Rogues you saw. We just happened to be taunting you and getting drunk. It's what Rogues do. Each player needs to decide what his character would do in a given situation, and go with that. Silence isn't usually the best option.
Quote:Ryeguy, it's cool that you don't use the player list, but as I said, I doubt that you go to pirate in california when LNS's are in that system, or even lawfuls... I'm sorry, but I don't believe it. But I guess that's just a difference of opinions, if you don't really use it, better yet.
I absolutely do. Same as I go to Colorado to pirate when Xenos happen to be there by accident. Know why? Because I don't care if things go poorly so far as my character is concerned, it still usually ends up being fun. Being chased by LNS is a great adrenaline rush, and most Xenos are awesome role players. In fact, I've yet to have a bad encounter with them. It's the same reason we didn't expect the first MM~ in Kyushu, we didn't turn around until we saw him on radar. If I used "long range scanners," how could that be explained? Again, I'm not putting that bit on anyone. It's a lot to ask to keep knowledge from your character that he/she wouldn't usually have.
We don't need to continue this. I was disappointed by the way you conducted yourself, you defend your position as you chose. All there is to it. I didn't expect my comments to change anything beyond making my opinions known. Do what you will; I don't expect everyone to play the game the same way. I do expect a certain conduct from official factions, but perhaps I'm idealistic.
Given conversation with Casero, perhaps it's important that I point out that I still think highly of the Mandalorians. I was simply not pleased with this one situation. I've given the faction praise before, and I'm sure that I'll be given reason to do so again.
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