Quickdocking, boon or bane?

[dodike]

Barge is a station that can be moved.

I was talking about advantages for various ship using various routes. If some jumpholes/gates didn't let big ships trough you would had a choice of doing more trips in the same or take a longer route using bigger ship. Transfer points would be set near those points which would create pirate's heaven and so on.
Sounds like fun to me.

[AshHill07]

Seen the video. Still perfectly happy with my previous statement.

So long as all station turrets get a buff making flying around them for more than a few minuites impossible (I mean actually make station turrets both powerful and accurate enough to kill something rather than the crap we have now which can barely hit things) than I am perfectly happy with this.

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[AeternusDoleo]

So, 2 minutes for just docking on a base?
'cuse me, do you ever think about traders? Those paperthing ships which at the moment already have no chance of survival against pirates?

As stated before, the default mooring paths are idiotically long, remnants from Vanilla - noone could fly a moor-enabled ship there. These are just a bunch of hardpoints that can be changed. I'm aiming for 2 to 5 seconds in the cutscene for mediums, 3 to 10 for heavies. Fighters would be no different then they are now (unless anyone points out a base with an excessively long dock sequence, then those can be adjusted too).

Docking is just 3 hardpoints: The HpDockMountX for the appear/disappear spot, HpDockPointX01 and HpDockPointX02 for the path ships take when in the sequence. The cutscene starts when the player passes HpDockPointX01 towards HpDockMountX, and ends when a player ship's HpMount is a set range from HpDockMountX (that is configured in the SolarArch config file). If the range is set equal or higher then the distance between HpDockMountX and HpDockPointX01 then a quick dock point is created.

For fighters we can't really do this because the HpDockMountX points for fighter berths is usually behind a door, one that is triggered when a player enters the cutscene. For bigger moors (Medium/Large) it is possible to keep quickdocking. However, this could become unfair to the fighters.

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[Narcotic]

Hm quite a good question.
Can't decide what to vote.

What I'd like about it:

- People (mostly unlawfuls) can't 'disappear' that easily when being chased
- Traders won't be able to get away in one piece when getting robbed/chased
- It makes the atmosphere more realistic

/edit: I like those pro's aswell:

+: Discerning between fighter/freighter, transport/gunboat and capital moorings.
+: Allows for a more diverse economy when select bases can't receive transports.
+: Allows for fewer caps at undesirable locations (such as junker bases) by simply not giving those a heavy moor.

And contra:

- People will find a way to abuse that (like scratching the hull of docking people)
- As fighter, when being chased, you've got no chance to get away alive (though more a pro maybe)
- It's everyone's habit to quickdock, people will spam f3

I'm trying to not quickdock for one day now. Then I'll vote.

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[Hidamari]

and if you buff station turrets pirates will just do what they always do and hide behind the transport letting it take fire from its own base.

there are no good points about this idea.. just leave it alone.

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[pitockm]

if you are really going to make a decision on these votes....put a timer on it. thanks.

[AeternusDoleo]

I'm just trying to get an idea of what the community thinks. Got an opportunity for doing something about the quickdocks - thought it'd be a good idea to ask before doing. I'll still try and fix the undocking issues regardless of what people say here - but we can leave a quickdock point with lowest undock priority at the top of each base to suck in anyone needing a quick getaway if the playerbase dislikes the idea of no quickdock. Although that will mean we CANNOT deny capital ships from docking to specific bases, since a jump type docking point will take any ship and that can't be altered.

The timer for this is at least a few months away - the 4.87 release.

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[Jocelyn]

Voted yes, rated 5, etc.

[Dusty Lens]

I would vote yes only if a counter will be added to keep track of how much of my time I wasted watching docking animations.

[Tapeworms]

So instead of it taking LITERALLY 10-15 minutes for me to dock my barge or nepilum at shipyards, it will now be completely impossible with this change?

Getting lucky while ramming my ship up against the shipyard for 15 minutes (literally) as I spam F3 is the only way I can get it to dock as it is now, take that away and no docking what-so-ever is what I'm seeing..and that certainly doesn't seem fair