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[Cerberus] Illusive Man
10-10-2010, 09:29 PM,
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Can this be used by the Discovery Developing Team?
*Maybe this is a dumb question, is this the Source Code?
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Offline hribek
10-10-2010, 09:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-10-2010, 09:36 PM by hribek.)
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Please note the date of the post you linked to. Thanks for the effort, but what you pointed at is very old and long known among modders.

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' Wrote:I am sure even if we could hack MS and get the source code, using it without their approval would lead to having armed people in black going over to have a long talk with Igiss.

Do you think they'd sell it?
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Offline teschy
10-10-2010, 09:36 PM,
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SDK just decodes all the ini files. Most of them are decoded in Discovery, but not all. Also, we already hacked the damned exe, it's cracked. Microsoft doesn't give a damn. The source code would be useful, but it's mostly used as an excuse for laziness.
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Offline hribek
10-10-2010, 10:20 PM,
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Would be weird if you didn't. That's why it's called gaming community. Sometimes it takes itself too seriously and ignores that it's composed of children of various ages. Freelancer's framework can only take so much complexity. So yeah, I prefer playing the game myself and doing simple modding, if any. That has been possible ever since the decoded ini "SDK" release, yes.

For me personally, after being around for a while and watching various Freelancer mods being developed ... all the reverse-engineering is becoming bitter. Documented programming interface matters. Just think of all the time spent to date by all modders by poking around and figuring out how stuff works. How many months, if not years, some tasks took - like deciphering SUR files.

And that's why one can only do meaningful Freelancer modding if they have a part of their lifetime to spend on a game they love, among other qualities. Either way, sticking around here (DGC) or doing Freelancer modding isn't something I would put in my CV or brag about a lot. I'd think of it as unhealthy if it ever were to become more than just a pastime.

I'll move on eventually.
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Offline Dave Synk
10-11-2010, 07:09 PM,
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If you search for Freeworlds : Tides of War(Star Wars themed mod)if i'm right, those guys added a tactical view with some very interesting features, so YES it can be done with the SDK and not with the source code itself, the source code might be a easier way to progress. Anyway look for mods like Crossfire, Shattered Worlds and so on... it's all about the dev team.

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Offline teschy
10-11-2010, 07:15 PM,
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The tactical overview is done with clientside FLHook , which is a standalone application injected in the game exe. It doesn't have to do much with .ini files.

And don't underestimate our dev team (nor overestimate it either), Freeworlds might showcase their stuff while Discovery isn't, but that doesn't mean our mod doesn't have anything fancy. Cannon's been working on some pretty neat stuff in the past months.
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Offline Dab
10-11-2010, 07:17 PM,
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' Wrote:The source code would be useful, but it's mostly used as an excuse for laziness.
Well thanks, that's one more excuse we can't use anymore.

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Offline Dave Synk
10-11-2010, 07:25 PM,
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I'm not saying our mod is not fancy, but i just told you what i saw on the other mods... how they develop.

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Offline Switchback
10-13-2010, 11:24 PM,
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' Wrote:Cannon's been working on some pretty neat stuff in the past months.


ORLY? do want. :3

Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts... perhaps the fear of a loss of power.
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