Order - Hogosha?

[Syrus]

In my entire time being an Order pilot I never actually heard anything about that Alliance between Order and Hogosha. I always considered it part of the Corsair "alliance", which also ended, when the Corsair alliance ended.

This FR5 is really weird...The given reason does not fit. That alliance - at least imo as a former Order player - just existed on the repsheet. There was no other connection. The Order had more to do with Blood Dragons - how would they feel about it, if they found out about a Hogosha alliance?!



// *ehem* And I shouldn't get my "Oh, so they get their FR5 granted so easily"-stick and club someone to death, should I?

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[Hawk]

for me it really had nothing to do with an Order Hogosha alliance. That was the justification when it was reported to us. What has long been our policy is that military ships should not be docking.....especially when they are at war with the house in which the base is located. The Order know we don't want them staging from out bases in Liberty. Most of them are ok with this. A few still try it and then mouth off with what are you going to do about it? Now you've seen what we're going to do about it.

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[lw'nafh]

for me it really had nothing to do with an Order Hogosha alliance. That was the justification when it was reported to us. What has long been our policy is that military ships should not be docking.....especially when they are at war with the house in which the base is located. The Order know we don't want them staging from out bases in Liberty. Most of them are ok with this. A few still try it and then mouth off with what are you going to do about it? Now you've seen what we're going to do about it.

Then why were they FR5'd, with the reasoning 'u hogosha allies : ))))'? It undoes your argument.

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[Hawk]

I don't post the FR5, I only report what gets reported to me. The person who sent me the report said they should not be docking because they are allies with the Hogosha. Maybe that was taken as the reason I filed the report. It wasn't.

The Order are at war with Liberty. When they used our bases to hide, Admiral Hale gets grumpy and threatens to remove docking rights in Liberty from my entire faction. I'm simply protecting our business interests.

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[Akura]

NOT TERRORISTS.

But I agree, we're a tad bit xenophobic.

Order should forget Hogosha and talk to the Junkers.
Last time I'm sayin it.

I was referring to Kusari's view on the Order. To them, they're invasive terrorists, and if you haven't noticed, the Hogosha support the current government.


Also, the Order and the Phantoms are the only two factions in Discovery who consider genocide a viable tactic in warfare.

Not Terrorists eh?

[Syrus]

for me it really had nothing to do with an Order Hogosha alliance. That was the justification when it was reported to us. What has long been our policy is that military ships should not be docking.....especially when they are at war with the house in which the base is located. The Order know we don't want them staging from out bases in Liberty. Most of them are ok with this. A few still try it and then mouth off with what are you going to do about it? Now you've seen what we're going to do about it.

Mh...So you don't like them docking there.
And then you FR5 them for being allied with Hogosha?

Instead of RP-banning them from your bases officially and then banning them if they still dock there?
Really?

It somehow smells bad here...

So another thing ... are local pirates now supposed to ... also not dock on your bases?
Cause I thought even vanilla RP said that they can?
Good to know that you're cutting of every smuggling income you have and becoming a lawful group of junk-collectors. Make your group part of the ALG and we are all set.


And - don't get me wrong, I don't really care what Junkers do. I'm just a bit ... let's say, confused.

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[lw'nafh]

Well see, ever since FR5 was introduced, it ruined progressive RP punishments, because every faction leader is 'too busy'. And to that I say, if you're too busy to manage your faction and their relations, or your HC is 'too busy'. Let someone else take over, or get a new goddamn HC!

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[Hawk]

Mh...So you don't like them docking there.
And then you FR5 them for being allied with Hogosha?

Instead of RP-banning them from your bases officially and then banning them if they still dock there?
Really?

Done, and some of them still try it every now and then.

So another thing ... are local pirates now supposed to ... also not dock on your bases?
Cause I thought even vanilla RP said that they can?
Good to know that you're cutting of every smuggling income you have and becoming a lawful group of junk-collectors. Make your group part of the ALG and we are all set.
And - don't get me wrong, I don't really care what Junkers do. I'm just a bit ... let's say, confused.

Our bases are open to anyone who doesn't make trouble. If you land with goods to sell in a peaceful manner, you are welcome. If you land with the navy chasing you, I'm going to be upset.

If you land after mouthing off to someone who tells you not to and that person posts photos of the incident in a place that can get Junkers in trouble, I will be upset.

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[Hawk]

Well see, ever since FR5 was introduced, it ruined progressive RP punishments, because every faction leader is 'too busy'. And to that I say, if you're too busy to manage your faction and their relations, or your HC is 'too busy'. Let someone else take over, or get a new goddamn HC!

I'm sensing a lot of anger here. This wouldn't by any chance have anything to do with the fact that I wouldn't let you dock a Hogosha transport on Junker bases would it?

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[lw'nafh]

I'm sensing a lot of anger here. This wouldn't by any chance have anything to do with the fact that I wouldn't let you dock a Hogosha transport on Junker bases would it?

It's actually a general statement about Discovery factions.

Our bases are open to anyone who doesn't make trouble. If you land with goods to sell in a peaceful manner, you are welcome. If you land with the navy chasing you, I'm going to be upset.

If you land after mouthing off to someone who tells you not to and that person posts photos of the incident in a place that can get Junkers in trouble, I will be upset.

That, on the other hand, I will call you up on. That's the biggest load of hypocritical crap I've seen since ever, and that comment -is- in relation to the transport. It's -just- a transport. Since when were Junkers so nationalistic?

NOTE that I respect the fact that you don't want the ship there, regardless of how pathetic the 'discussion' was. I haven't so much as gone -near- a Junker base.

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