Order - Hogosha?

[Hawk]

You're right this is off topic and it seems the original issue is settled. If anyone from the Order wants to discuss this you know how to reach me and I'll be happy to talk.

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[n00bl3t]

I would say the reason Bear has stated in the FR5 thread is about a solid 8 on the scale of, well, crap.

As for Hawk's reasoning as to not allowing The Order on a junker base in Liberty; well, assuming The Order has not led Liberty forces to the Junker's door, the FR5 should not have been filed.

All in all, eh.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[sadtranslation]

Hawk, I already sent you PMs to point that it's not a valid argument. I also don't see a reason for the kind of Zoners of the Dark Side of the Force to attempt looking white and fluffy when they are affected only by logical roleplay gruge from the single imperialistic government (that never worried about this certain case, by the way) - and this time Order guy was reported by someone flying Pirate Transport in Penny - obviously a criminal.

Morning, Richard.

Edit: I suppose that I added a swear word into the discussion, but in fact that's it. Zoners and Junkers are quite similar factions according to their behavour in general - and while being completely different in many ways they share the same, eh, Vergeltungswaffe - in other words - FR5.

Will you use it if I sit at your base and write a report about every pirate, every criminal undocking from it? Every Corsair will be fine too (oh, god, they also are Hogosha allies!) and even every Gaian (terrorists, flying Hogosha ships and even using Hogosha weapons from time to time!), it will be a party for everyone.

(I see no point in moving the discussion to PM, to be honest)

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[Rodent]

well, fine.

When the Order plays through an RP to ensure a docking point in Liberty, it is worthless because the admins do not implement it in game. Good stuff.

I see why Junkers dont want us to dock, okay. But why are we being denied the docking rights to other bases we should by all rights get, because of the RP we have conducted with the faction?

[Hawk]

well, fine.

When the Order plays through an RP to ensure a docking point in Liberty, it is worthless because the admins do not implement it in game. Good stuff.

I see why Junkers don't want us to dock, okay. But why are we being denied the docking rights to other bases we should by all rights get, because of the RP we have conducted with the faction?

You are not. The entire Order faction has not been FR5'd. This only applies to one lone soul who took matters into his own hand. I'm more than willing to RP with you guys, I just want to know what is going on. In the past I've had recon cruisers showing up without warning saying they need to use the base and then getting quite nasty when told they shouldn't be there. It gets to be quite a headache after a while.

Thank you Nooblet for stirring up an issue once we put this to bed. @sadtranslation - I replied to your PM stating that I understand fully your reason. If you read what I already wrote in this thread you will see that I agree with you and that the reason given in that report had nothing to do with the reason for my report.

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[Bobthemanofsteel]

Y'know, the Order response to this is kinda mindboggling.
If anything, you should be asking your captain what the hell he did to piss the Junkers off, not having a go at the Junkers for revoking his access from a station they own.

You're actually acting like a bunch of children.

You're taking the one OORP sentence of an Admin who simply announced the FR5, as the Junker's actual stance?

Wut.

[ophidian]

And you are the mother nature of wisdom and adultery, right.

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[Hawk]

I'd like to say one more things here in defense of the admin team. When I submit an FR5, I have to submit role play evidence with it. In this case I used the report sent to the Junkers in which another pilot saw the guys docking. The person who reported the incident to me mentioned the Hogosha/Order alliance because he read it on the infocard at the time. The admins can't be expected to know all the changing role play between every faction. I'm sure he just made a quick comment on the FR5 based on the evidence submitted to him. Give him a break, they work awfully hard so you guys can play this game.

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[Bobthemanofsteel]

And you are the mother nature of wisdom and adultery, right.

There's a mother nature of unmarital sex now?

[ophidian]

But you yourself saying that he read it from the infocard. Infocards are not a in-RP matter and its metagaming as Tommeh posted at the sanction topic.

Therefore, this is metagaming applied by admins (it may be a misunderstanding or they missed it perhaps) but you cannot show an F8 screenshot as an IN RP reason for using an IN RP rule.

If you want, go and report all Order players, it doesn't change the fact that this is metagaming and it is wrong and against the server ethics.

@Bakari Kone: Perhaps there is.

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