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Offline Death.RunningVerminator
06-06-2012, 02:45 AM,
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Do not want.

WinXP ftw!
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Offline Hielor
06-06-2012, 04:16 AM,
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' Wrote:there is no way MS could afford to completely test the product before coming to market, so they don't. they realise an-almost-finished version that, in construction terms, is like the builder selling you a house with a tarpaulin roof; it'll keep the rain out, but thats about it.

everytime we send back the statistics about crashes etc to ms, it helps to improve their next product which we will benefit from in time/gives them advanced real-world testing data for free*
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Fun fact: there are about as many testers working on Windows 8 as there are developers. That's the Microsoft division of labor: Product Managers come up with designs, Software Development Engineers(SDEs) write the code, and Software Development Engineers in Test (SDETs) write more code that nobody outside the company ever sees which validates the product code.

Not unique to Microsoft, either--fairly common way of doing things nowadays. Do things get missed? Probably. Is it because Microsoft employees are lazy and terrible? No--it's because there are as many different combinations of computer hardware and software as there are computer owners, and obviously not every scenario can be tested exhaustively.

Crash reports are actually extremely useful--not just the report itself, but also the scope of the problem. If you have a million installed computers and a dozen instances of a crash, that'll get prioritized below a crash that has several thousand hits a day.

And trust me--what ends up going out the door is a whole lot better and more stable than the stuff that nobody outside ever gets to see.

Occasionally required disclosure: yes, I work for Microsoft. However, anything in this post is my personal opinion and does not reflect blah blah blah blah etc.
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Offline Aingar
06-06-2012, 04:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-06-2012, 04:52 AM by Aingar.)
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About the nonsense I was supposedly spouting, that might have been indeed some really out-of date news I dug out on a long-forgotten page around a year ago, so feel free to ignore/forget/whateveryoulike with it.

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Offline jarianslake
06-06-2012, 05:41 AM,
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' Wrote:About the nonsense I was supposedly spouting, that might have been indeed some really out-of date news I dug out on a long-forgotten page around a year ago, so feel free to ignore/forget/whateveryoulike with it.

Well I do know that they are extending support to ARM processors in addition to the normal Intel and AMD, although the support is limited to the Metro apps and word, powerpoint, excel and one note.
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Offline SparkyRailgun
06-06-2012, 05:44 AM,
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Considering XP is still in wide use (my condolences to any poor souls still using that outdated PoS), Win 7 will last at least until the next incarnation of Windows is shat out.

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Offline Zahas
06-06-2012, 09:11 AM,
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' Wrote:[color=#FFFFFF]So following the microsoft philosophy

98- godtier

Millenium- UGHWHATTHEHELLtier

XP-Godtier

Vista-Donotwanttier

7-Godtier

guess what 8 is going to be
You forgot Windows 95. That thing was epic on my 2 GB HDD.
Yes, my first PC was @ 166 Mhz, 32 Mb ram, 2 GB HDD, and 2 mb video
And that thing was @ 1000 $ O_O
Freakin' Technology
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Offline Govedo13
06-06-2012, 10:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-06-2012, 10:53 AM by Govedo13.)
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' Wrote:You forgot Windows 95. That thing was epic on my 2 GB HDD.
Yes, my first PC was @ 166 Mhz, 32 Mb ram, 2 GB HDD, and 2 mb video
And that thing was @ 1000 $ O_O
Freakin' Technology
I am lucky bastard. Mine was a with a bit better CPU AMD K6-2 and 266Mhz same Ram and HDD and the mighty S3 ViRGE GPU at 4 MB and even a CD-ROM, price was around 1400$.
About the win 8- what Revenge said- his both posts are full of win.

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Offline Leo
06-06-2012, 11:19 AM,
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Here is how Microsoft does it:

1. Release ****ty build of Windows that everyone hates.
2. Hackers and programmers fix Windows so that it works the RIGHT way and release a version of their own.
3. Microsoft finds said programmers and threatens them with a lawsuit unless they join Microsoft and code the next version of Windows with fixed bugs.
4. Good version of Windows comes out.

~Leo

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Offline Agmen of Eladesor
06-06-2012, 08:07 PM,
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' Wrote:You forgot Windows 95. That thing was epic on my 2 GB HDD.
Yes, my first PC was @ 166 Mhz, 32 Mb ram, 2 GB HDD, and 2 mb video
And that thing was @ 1000 $ O_O
Freakin' Technology

Oh, you had the fast one.

Or it's just a case of me being older.
My first IBM based PC was a 20 Mhz, 8 Mb RAM, 150 MB HDD, and ran both DOS and Windows 3.1. It was an improvement when they came out with Windows 3.11. Ah, the joys of writing my own Batch programs based upon original DOS.

Of course, my first personally owned computer had 4K of RAM - and there was no such thing as a HDD, it used a tape drive.



(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
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Offline Leo
06-06-2012, 08:26 PM,
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' Wrote:Oh, you had the fast one.

Or it's just a case of me being older.
My first IBM based PC was a 20 Mhz, 8 Mb RAM, 150 MB HDD, and ran both DOS and Windows 3.1. It was an improvement when they came out with Windows 3.11. Ah, the joys of writing my own Batch programs based upon original DOS.

Of course, my first personally owned computer had 4K of RAM - and there was no such thing as a HDD, it used a tape drive.

I remembered those...and the 386's and 486's...took a freaking day to boot up.

~Leo

You fear oblivion. Yet you forget. The universe remembers every atom of your being. Even dust hums your name in the dark.
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