Liberty-Kusari embargo?

[Dusty Lens]

And yes, it does have something to do with player shipments, but the meat of my reasoning can be seen above.

I'm going to pretend you didn't say it has anything to do with player shipments.

The wealth of the Farmers Alliance is largely dependent on the wealth of Samura. Despite Liberty not being too strict in enacting any embargo of Kusari trade during the Bretonia-Kusari War, the Bretonian blockade coupled with political sensitivities and the activity of Bretonian privateers meant that Synth Foods could no longer deliver as much of its products to New Tokyo as it did before. While Liberty officials and insurance companies absorbed some of the losses from trade reduction, Samura lost the most, and few Synth Foods convoys could pass through Kusari without being attacked by the Farmers Alliance.

Meanwhile, food production on Kyushu is on the rise: the war required additional supplies and demand for traditional food increased when Synth Foods started to raise its prices.

Who wrote that, Igiss? What the heck would a war between Kusari and Bretonia have to do with a product which is shipped from Liberty and Rheinland? Especially in light of the lifting of shipping restrictions through the Sigmas between Rheinland and Kusari, further opening that market between the two.

If Igiss wrote that he's pants on head.

[CommanderYamakazi]

I think changes in diplomacy and politics is good even though there can be issues in trying to visualize certain economies sustaining or being removed. I rather have that than sit doing the same things all day. This time it gave Factions such as [USI], Ageira and perhaps DSE to "smuggle" or ship cargo under the lawful radar.

At the same time KPT gets activity to enforce the embargo, and so does LSF by trying to counter it. Well sorry, I don't mind that much if this or that is not supposed to happen. At least its a change from attacking BAF all day long. Wonder if people can appreciate the activity boost and change of territories and possible new enemies than sit here and complain.

[Zelot]

I'm going to pretend you didn't say it has anything to do with player shipments.



Who wrote that, Igiss? What the heck would a war between Kusari and Bretonia have to do with a product which is shipped from Liberty and Rheinland? Especially in light of the lifting of shipping restrictions through the Sigmas between Rheinland and Kusari, further opening that market between the two.

If Igiss wrote that he's pants on head.

None the less, its the storyline we are working with. There are lots of things in lots of the story that can be seen as maybe not making as much sense as we think they could. Doesn't change that it's the story we are working with.

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[SpaceTime]

Without someone above the faction leaders acting in the role of gamemaster, there are no consequences - at least none that the faction leads do not impose on themselves. This is a problem inherent to a roleplaying community without gamemasters.

That. In-RP the economic destruction that both Houses would have had would be enormous and the problem is the lack of gamemasters, as Aeternus Doleo said.


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I think changes in diplomacy and politics is good even though there can be issues in trying to visualize certain economies sustaining or being removed. I rather have that than sit doing the same things all day. This time it gave Factions such as [USI], Ageira and perhaps DSE to "smuggle" or ship cargo under the lawful radar.

At the same time KPT gets activity to enforce the embargo, and so does LSF by trying to counter it. Well sorry, I don't mind that much if this or that is not supposed to happen. At least its a change from attacking BAF all day long. Wonder if people can appreciate the activity boost and change of territories and possible new enemies than sit here and complain.

I agree with that. And it isn't complaining, just some questions based on logic.

[Dusty Lens]

I completely agree Sina. My concern is mostly that this ill conceived plan seems to marginalize an entire group. Basically the Farmers just... Won.

[Hastings]

At the same time KPT gets activity to enforce the embargo, and so does LSF by trying to counter it. Well sorry, I don't mind that much if this or that is not supposed to happen. At least its a change from attacking BAF all day long. Wonder if people can appreciate the activity boost and change of territories and possible new enemies than sit here and complain.

I dont deny it generates activity, but there is a basical failure of logic! Srsly. Like Dusty said, pants on head!

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[CommanderYamakazi]

I agree with that. And it isn't complaining, just some questions based on logic.

Of course, there must be some basis of Role-Play and logic to justify it. But saying things like: "Well Ageira can just shut down your entire trade-lane network."

True statement or not, are we then supposed to Role-Play that a single Faction can theoretically in Role-Play control all four houses since they depend on that certain Corporation to supply them with necessary items to keep trade-lanes operational? Ok then I wonder why Rheinland haven't gotten completely owned yet, all Liberty needs to do is put a gun against Ageira's throat and say "Push the button to deactivate all their trade-lanes!"

I dont deny it generates activity, but there is a basical failure of logic! Srsly. Like Dusty said, pants on head!

I disagree. Sound Role-Play and tensions arising between two houses lead to an embargo, then counter-intelligence came into play with enforcing said embargo. It's actions that lead to certain consequences, and then you play them out. Stomping around saying this or that cargo will cripple your entire economy, true or not, who cares, we are playing it out and it generates new opportunities, it's a lot more important.

[SpaceTime]

Of course, there must be some basis of Role-Play and logic to justify it. But saying things like: "Well Ageira can just shut down your entire trade-lane network."

True statement or not, are we then supposed to Role-Play that a single Faction can theoretically in Role-Play control all four houses since they depend on that certain Corporation to supply them with necessary items to keep trade-lanes operational? Ok then I wonder why Rheinland haven't gotten completely owned yet, all Liberty needs to do is put a gun against Ageira's throat and say "Push the button to deactivate all their trade-lanes!"

Off Topic but I want to clarify it: Kusari owns it's trade lanes/jump gates. Ageira and IC cannot just deactivate them.

[Zelot]

Off Topic but I want to clarify it: Kusari owns their trade lanes and their jump gates. Ageira and IC cannot just deactive them.

Correct, Rheinland too if I recall correctly.

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[Hastings]

Off Topic but I want to clarify it: Kusari owns their trade lanes and their jump gates. Ageira and IC cannot just deactive them.

True, but only Ageira possesses the technology to maintain the lanes.

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