Liberty-Kusari embargo?

[SpaceTime]

Edit: Honestly I expected much more pressure on the Kusari Government by your mega-corporation

Except from contacting liberty lawfuls and unlawfuls, you surely have the power to do what I describe.

[ProwlerPC]

Edit: Honestly I expected much more pressure on the Kusari Government by your mega-corporation

Yes there is an issue about the current gov't in Kusari that GMG has. Our expression of this issue is through the use of unlawfuls to undermine such actions performed by the current Kusari gov't. From the financing of BD to keep Hokkaido operations down to making arrangements with Hellfire Legion to circumvent or get through the blockade. Bringing down the Samura family and it's puppet on the throne has been a GMG goal for decades if not a full century by now.

This matter should also be hurting Kishiro greatly as they are our distributors to Liberty and are also losing a big chunk of profits from this as well. Who knows perhaps this is the onset that leads to the next coup that changes the powerbase in Kusari.

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[McNeo]

If it's too much trouble, Liberty could just harvest ice from Gunnison, California Minor, Maine and some of those ice-fields, split out the oxygen atom from the two hydrogen ones, and call it H-fuel...

But that wouldn't be fun now, would it?

It's not as if hydrogen doesn't make up about 95% of the universe's matter by mass...

[ProwlerPC]

If it's too much trouble, Liberty could just harvest ice from Gunnison, California Minor, Maine and some of those ice-fields, split out the oxygen atom from the two hydrogen ones, and call it H-fuel...

But that wouldn't be fun now, would it?

It's not as if hydrogen doesn't make up about 95% of the universe's matter by mass...

:lol:

I actually loved this subject. Friday was our residential physicist. I couldn't even come close to repeating his talk one isotopes, half-lifes, and states needed to make the fussion reaction. But in a nutshell the Hydrogen and Helium isotopes that make up the Crow Nebula not only comes from a star but from a star in a specific period in it's life. The star would've had to have been torn apart unnaturally in it's earlier stages of life to create such nebula as a naturally dieng star would've already burned out those specific Hydrogen and Helium isotopes that saturate the Crow. It's really insanely more complicated then that and can be wrapped up as Dam K'vosh thing doing something akin to how Friday put it "Playing galactic billiard balls with stars and black holes".

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[Zukeenee]

I realize I'm a bit late to the party, but I just wanted to clarify something that DarthBindo said:

That and the USI built into every trade lane which enables some serious damage to be done. Which would be awesome as an in-game mechanic.

Lolwut?

Pretty sure he meant the Universal Ship Identification system, as mentioned in the second paragraph of the description here. I'm still not sure how that applies, though. Unless he's talking about the smuggling side of things.



Anyway, to those of you saying that Kusari's economy should be crippled right about now: That is, as many others in this thread have been insisting, not entirely true. Is Kusari taking a loss here by cutting off a few resources to Liberty? maybe a little one, yeah. But, as Zelot pointed out, Kusari doesn't produce plutonium or H-fuel. They just distribute it for the GMG. Which just leaves us with engine components. Engine components are important, of course, but it's just one export.

Considering all of the other things Kusari's still trading (optical chips, optronics, quantum multiplexors, luxury food, basic alloy, hydrocarbons, light arms, mining machinery, polymers, robotic components, and ship hull panels)... I'd say Kusari's still doing well enough.



And to the people going "Liberty will be totally stopped in its tracks!", no. Not at all.

As Prowler's been saying, the GMG isn't going to let one of their largest customers just slip out of their hands. The GMG is finding ways around the embargo. Liberty is still getting its fuel, just not as efficiently.

Also, take a look at the US's current fuel problems. Now, I won't pretend to know much at all about what's going on in the US with oil and all that (yeah, I don't pay much mind to the "crises" of my country. Oh well.), but I know that there are, supposedly, shortages. Is that slowing the US down? Doesn't seem like it to me. At least, not by much. The only problem is that gas prices are higher than they used to be. But hey, no matter how high the prices get, we still have to pay it. We can't live without our fuel.

I'd imagine Liberty's the same way. They're getting their fuel in a different more expensive way. So they'll probably transfer that higher price over to the H-fuel consumers, or the general Libertonian public. And they'll have to pay more. They might grumble about it, but what are they gonna do?



On top of all that, Sina's right. We've got an interesting scenario going on here. Let's let it play out. The in-RP explanations may not satisfy all of you, but I daresay they're just as good as (and probably better than) many other in-RP explanations out there. So let's have some gosh-darn fun with our spaceboat diplomacy.

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[ryoken]

HAhahA. i stopped over 30 transports today heading for Kusari full of goods,and tomorow,i will stop twice that. The xenos will stop all your valuable goods from ariving safe you Kusari pysco's. then we will watch as Liberty stomps a mud hole in yer butt. The best part of the whole thing? 3 separate Liberty Lawfuls showed up,and actually supported me,and my boys,Unofficially ofcourse. They just asked we do not blow up any Liberty corps. Nahhh we keep Liberty for liberty. We will let our own make a living,and blow Kusari shippers to hell. HAhahA!

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[AeternusDoleo]

Yea. Since Rheinland doesn't consider H fuel exports to Bretland illegal, Bret traders simply obtain it directly from the GMG and bring it through Rheinland to Bretonia. From there part of it can move towards Liberty (something I hear Bowex and Gateways official factions having gone into). A roundabout way but it works, especially if Liberty ends up subsidizing this.

And yes. High fuel prices -is- hurtful to an economy. It won't cause it to bomb out rightaway, but a fuel embargo is a good way of starting a war of attrition. That said, Liberty now has time to switch to alternatives: Straight deuterium fuel for one.

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From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.

[Zukeenee]

Summarized:
<We are Xenos! We are single-handedly destroying Kusari's economy because we hate them! Hahahaha!>

Yeeeeeeah... luckily for Kusari, your actions mean... nothing.

Seriously. Sorry, but the in-game actions of a few ships, regardless of how many transports they stop, won't be changing the official in-RP status of Kusari trade. There's a bit more work involved than that. Besides, you're essentially doing just what the XA has been doing for years. Not much of a change here.

On top of that, it looks to me like the only reason you're doing this Xeno-stuff now is to be a dick to Kusari. And not even in an in-RP way. You make it look like this very thread gave you the idea, which seems a bit OoRP. Please tell me I'm wrong.

So why are you doing this? I mean, I understand, you're a Xeno, you're doing what Xenos normally do. I'm just wondering why it's important enough to brag about and taunt people about.

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[n00bl3t]

Edit: You also forget that Kusari has the biggest food production company in all of Sirius in Samura.

I cannot tell whether you are being Sirius or not?

I mean, in Sirius, Rheinland produces the most food.

I prefer this line of thinking, regardless of what is logical or not.

I think this is the only line which really needs to be read, after all the important details, in the whole thing before anyone makes up their mind on the whole thing.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[hogosha]

for me this embargo is intrestin for a change...
and i think becose embargo price of H - fuel and plutonium should be higher!!! that would be some balans traders- politicians
:yahoo:

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