Wild Hybrid Guns

[Razr]

The Iseijin use both unlawful and lawful Kusari ships. We said we'd use both from the creation request, and we still do. Now we'd like a small, balanced, reasonable addition to fit with the other half of the tech we use.

The Wilde use only RM ships, but still have the 700m/s Hornvipers.
I fly fighters whenever the rest of the Iseijin does, and I know Daitos are good guns, we do use them.
We don't use Krakens on any of our ships, though we could if we wanted to. We use Suncannon or Daitos with a couple of Nomad Lasers usually, but only cause there is no 700m/s Blaster or Cannon.

My point is, you've already made a mention of using Krakens and lasers as a measure to spit in people's faces for not giving you your precision gun. My point is, you've already got Katanas flying around with a mix of 4 Krakens, 2 nomad lasers, and an inferno. Given what you said, aren't you spitting in our face already? On top of that, can't your faction use this combo as it has already without getting a new gun?

[Akura]

My point is, you've already made a mention of using Krakens and lasers as a measure to spit in people's faces for not giving you your precision gun. My point is, you've already got Katanas flying around with a mix of 4 Krakens, 2 nomad lasers, and an inferno. Given what you said, aren't you spitting in our face already? On top of that, can't your faction use this combo as it has already without getting a new gun?

I'm saying we could, right now, we don't have Krakens on any of our ships, but we have Nomad Lasers.

If we're not given a worse alternative to use, we'll just keep using the unbalanced ones as we do now. Sorry for trying to make a compromise, we'll continue to use guns that people complain about.

[mwerte]

In 4.84 all nomad guns were Nomad Blasters/Cannons , so obviously you used them, now suddenly they aren't yours at all.

Right now, the current blasters/cannons are made by both Order and Wild factions.

We're asking for a split, so that the Order can say that they made copies and are doing Nomad research, and we can have wild built guns.

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[Zelot]

I'm saying we could, right now, we don't have Krakens on any of our ships, but we have Nomad Lasers.

If we're not given a worse alternative to use, we'll just keep using the unbalanced ones as we do now. Sorry for trying to make a compromise, we'll continue to use guns that people complain about.

Fine, we'll enjoy our lasers, Krakens and Wyrms then. We try and be reasonable and you laugh and spit in our faces.

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[Akura]

I was kidding.

But there is no way we're gonna stop using Lasers though, and it seems we have another year or so until 4.86.

[Cannon]

@Akura

Which Mjolnir gets sand in his vagina about.

It is not okay to say this. Apologise.

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[Akura]

Sorry Mjolnir.


I still think you're totally unreasonable though.

[hribek]

The only unreasonable thing here is that this discussion is taking place, at all.

Sure, you can request anything you like, for 4.87.

It should be administrators and/or developers who decides / has final word on what guns a faction will use. I hope you can understand why.

Requests are fine. Demands are not.

[Daedric]

If we're not given a worse alternative to use, we'll just keep using the unbalanced ones as we do now. Sorry for trying to make a compromise, we'll continue to use guns that people complain about.

You already have a worse alternative to use. Use pure KNF or pure RM load outs. That is worse than what you use now. There, I gave you what you want. Have fun.

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[Backo]

And I regulate the equipment of the Iseijin to make sure it's only ever 50/50 or less with Nomad.

I still remember that full nom-nom kusari navy (the one that's trying to be smaller then my fighter, really) gunboat. It happened months back, but it send a clear message to me - anything can be done with a SHF firing gunboat/cruiser weapons. I hope you've fixed the 100% nomnom weapons issue with that ship, Akura.

And about less drain krakens. Let's see... Katana/Wraith Krakens... Katana/Wraith Krakens with less drain... Nah, you're definitely not wanting something good for PvP, not at all. Now tell me what's wrong with a nomad ship without any nom-nom weapons? Like a normal RM loadout? Is it bad? I mean I used to be raiding Texas with such loadouts and got outnumbered just as bad Wilde gets. Nobody offered me krakens, should I be a sad panda?

Overall, I'm not convinced. Sorry.

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