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04-08-2011, 02:57 PM,

Well. Feedback from members of other factions who had encounters (good or bad, either way) are welcome to post here.

I'm not blaming nobody, and please stop with all the PMs on Skype. An OORP thread like this cannot have RP consequences unless my view point is true, at least... I think.

Pacific · 04-08-2011, 02:57 PM,

Well seems nice and interesting. The Order fraction is ruined cause of its Indies and Indies fractions. Why here is the thing they act like and do things that want and never listening to Primaries. Don't know proper English or even know what rp is. Not to mention poor fighting skills and the list goes on. In my opinion the Order| is doing its work greatly.

And yes no Rp chances are given and its our fault as well but most of the Indies behavior makes other people have to desire to role play like us. Most people when they raid Minor as I do as well see the so Called Isis Camping. Now to explain There is a protocol in the Order| Regarding Isis camping which makes it forbidden.

And I doth that after its release there were any Order| members camping Isis if they did they received proper note and warning not to do it again. But most of the people who camp Isis are the Indies. Most player fractions see the Order Indies and trow it on the Order|. The Order| Is trying to talk some reason in to some group's but they are act retarded,staburn and act like 2 year old kids. I wont tell names.

In my Opinion whats best to do you ask ? Well its a very simple answer really. Make the Order fraction invite only like SCRA ,Keepers,Phantoms. Remove all Indie fractions and ships. And I am sure that progress will be seen in the first two weeks after this takes place. And it will go on. Recruitment will be open as usual but people have to join the Order from their Old jobs. Meaning something like this.

" I was a Freelancer but my ship got attacked by the nomads and I am afraid for myself and my family. I come here today to ask if I can join the Ranks of the Order and fight this threat."

So By removing the Indies Fractions and player wise. There wont be anything going in the way of people Rping with the Order. And being Allied with them.

PS: I know its Sounds drastic but some people honestly are pushing it.

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04-08-2011, 02:59 PM,

Pushing it? Why should someone else needs to pay for the previous actions of The Order? Don't make of everyone a single one. This is the issue in your post.

Pacific · (This post was last modified: 04-08-2011, 03:02 PM by Pacific.)

No its not. Their Actions have caused the Order Problems. Thats Why people have low opinion on the Order|. And the Order has the right of Banning them all and punishing them all. I have seen a very few Indies that actually can Rp as Order. They can Apply in the Recruitment if they want to be Order| . I am strongly for the Order becoming a Invite only fraction.

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Pinko · 04-08-2011, 03:03 PM,

Well, first of all, I'm one of those who dislike considering Indies as lesser than official factions, so calling non Order| people ''Secondary fleet''...

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.

04-08-2011, 03:04 PM,

' Wrote:No its not. Their Actions have caused the Order Problems. Thats Why people have low opinion on the Order|. And the Order has the right of Banning them all and punishing them all. I have seen a very few Indies that actually can Rp as Order. They can Apply in the Recruitment if they want to be Order| . I am strongly for the Order becoming a Invite only fraction.

And I presume you think now that my actions are bad aswell for the reputation of the Order, is that what you are trying to say? I should remember you that a faction doesn't has the right to 'punish everybody' only because someone made something wrong.

lukasz_r128a · (This post was last modified: 04-08-2011, 03:07 PM by lukasz_r128a.)

Quote:I am strongly for the Order becoming a Invite only fraction.

Invitation only faction is not the best way. Modify it to Ossies only for Order| and for few selected indie players with special permissions from Order|. I'm pretty sure that something like that will solve lot o problems...

Ivan · 04-08-2011, 03:08 PM,

The Order has a lot of problems with activity, the main one being extremely low activity of Keepers, a bit higher activity of das Wilde & Aoi Isejin. The Order players have simply nothing to log on for, aside from Dodge BNG/BHG.

Another problem the Order faces, they're deep into different RP, including research, espionage, assassination, engineering, economics. All of them require at least close cooperation between official factions, especially espionage and assasination, which require approval of the one who "dies" or "is watched upon". And people don't like to die or to be watched upon.

Between the Order indies and Order|: I see no real problems. There're some RUSS)), uncontrolable indies or Order| members, but that happens everywhere. Order| tries to deal with both as much as it can.

Between Order| and TCG|: There's one problem, but I think if I mention it, it'll turn into constant trolling and Q_Qing. Both sides are aware of it very well, though.

Between Order| and BNG|/|EA - there's one issue, but it's unclear to me. Dodge really doesn't like the Order for some reason.

EDIT: Title for indies isn't really kewl, but if you have suggestions for a better one, go ahead, drop it here, lads.

Pacific · 04-08-2011, 03:13 PM,

' Wrote:Invitation only faction is not the best way. Modify it to Ossies only for Order| and for few selected indie players with special permissions from Order|. I'm preety sure that something like that will solve lot o problems...

Maybe Cruisers and Geb's as well. Leave the Secondary's with the Gunboat,Bomber and fighters.

No jack I don't think your actions are bad. I am actually quite pleased that you brought this up. And its clearly that some of the Secondaries are a Problem and need to be removed to lesser class ships. That they won't cause attention. Now A question to All of the secondaries who the only ship they have is a GB and Above. What stands in your way to buy a simple fighter instead of a Cap ? Isn't it easy to make mistake on a fighter then on a Battleship and learning the Order Rp will be quite easy as well.

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Pacific · (This post was last modified: 04-08-2011, 03:14 PM by Pacific.)

// Ops Double post

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