Current Order Status

[Daedric]

And the Order has the right of Banning them all and punishing them all. I have seen a very few Indies that actually

Do point to the location that grants you said right. Please. I'd like to see it.

I'll edit this post once I finish reading the rest of the thread.

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[DodgeOld24]

To the guy who said ganking was of poor taste, well, I don't see why it should be considered as such. But then again, I was told I'm not playing the game everyone else is playing.

I gank too sometimes, even though I dislike doing it, and still think it's in poor taste. Doing a fair fight is much more fun for both me and the opponent (mostly). That's why I try to avoid ganking others.

[Pingu!]

What do you think the issue is deriving from?

In that section of poll, I don't see an option nothing of stated above.

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But you either follow our rules here and work with us - or STFU and GTFO.

[Jeremy Hunter]

No, I dont like the current status. We're being ganked and have no one to call for helpl.

No, its not the Secondary's fault. I've been secondary since SwissScorch. I've seen good Indies. Iron Legion, TOP, TCG. The new Wedjat. Its not our fault.

I chose poor organization. But thats not my only reason. More of a combo of a few. But this one was the best blanket.

Reason:

I've seen Order| think they are better. Iv seen lolwuts over and over.

I've been Order since SwissScorch. Lost FL, came back under Ophi's first stint.

The Order's highpoint was when our relations with SCRA, NLH, BD, and VF were strong.

Now...

SCRA and NLH hate us, VF is nearly dead, BD is weakly allied, we just started with the HF.

Poor organization, poor leadership.

I want the Order to be what it was when Ophi was Rand Seith. Minus Kelt.

Why was there the SCCRA backstab?

I'll qoute someone from ingame.

"Thier holding onto a crumbling empire"

Something to that effect.

Leadership needs an overhaul, alliances need to be formed. We wont survive in Omicron Mu without any alliances. The Order needs to be overhauled from its roots, from the OHC down to the Ensigna.

I say this as a prominent Indie and an Order| Corporal.

Our status: FUBAR.

This needs to be fixed.

And for the record, not by me. Im not the right guy.

I have in mind two or three people who can hopefully turn it around. Them in positions to do anything?

Not yet.

Thats my say.

Tommeh and Anon also make good points.

So does sadtranslation.

Our roleplay,is screwed atm. Again overhaul

Nothing else really...

-Jeremy

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[The.Outlaw.Star]

Why was there the SCCRA backstab?

if it makes you feel any better they did it to the IMG| too. I guess its just something that they do!

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[[Cerberus] Illusive Man]

I didn't checked the thread till now.. and the numbers are.. uhm.. 8-|


Do you like the current status of the Order| ?
Yes [ 5 ] [6.94%]
No [ 54 ] [75.00%]
I couldn't care less. [ 13 ] [18.06%]

[Jeremy Hunter]

Ok...

@Pacific

Do not touch my Osiris.

I spent to long saving up for my mostly RP ship.

@Vladimir

Blaming my hand-forged Keyblades screwing the Order is like blaming a Hand-made Carnifex handgun for doing the same. ME ripoff.

So, stfu, with no due respect.

@Whoever said osiris= official and approved indies.

I like the idea

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[Anonymous User]

Yes the leadership activity is not the best currently. To less Organisation.
Not a fault of the leadership. Rod and Mine rl are bussy. Dunno about sly.

There are problems. Both. Sec and prim Order caused them. Attemts vor New rps are mostly not supoorted by both. Most Players are Bussy by beeing ganked by navy and bhg Groups.
habe to go back to work...

Pt. Two later.

Most Order Players also seem to think rp<pvp.

People like the Order tech and use IT. They Forget the Order rp. Order should not attack other humans if they Fun have to. We are the protecrors of humanity.
Work.... Pt3soon

Also we have more ossies than anytjing elsd. Lot of peps just know the Order as capwhore faction.

I think one good step to solve the oorp fest is to give Order id More restrictions

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[Zahas]

Do you like the current status of the Order| ?

No

Do you think that it is the fault of the Secondary?

No.

What do you think the issue is deriving from?

Poor leadership.


I'm posting here because everyone got a point of view.
I don't hate order at all i actualy love it alot but today Order| realy dissapointed me.

A newbie in a mjlonir with krakens / firekiss / GC weps , civilian ID , IFF BHG got attacked by Order| with a few RPing not even checking his ID or trying to explain the rules he broke, it's true that he didn't even answered my PMs after i've told others to stop attacking him.

Stuff like those makes me thinking if that was actualy a blue message hunger or just a RP attack?
I look at offcial factions like an example to indies, but i've realised that's not true.

And don't make me post me the proof as it's going to be shamefull more.

[08.04.2011 20:06:12] Order|Maj.G.Halleck: Hold on sweetie...
[08.04.2011 20:06:13] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: The frak is it.
[08.04.2011 20:06:14] Death: Ageira|Black-2 was killed by LNS-HooverDamm (Gun)
[08.04.2011 20:06:18] Order|Cdr.Brian.Scott: Oh my...
[08.04.2011 20:06:22] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: Hold it for your own good.
[08.04.2011 20:06:27] Order|Cdr.Brian.Scott: Just look at this one...
[08.04.2011 20:06:30] <(JayDee)>: so wnen go to iota?
[08.04.2011 20:06:36] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: Richards deal with it.
[08.04.2011 20:06:40] Alan_Strem: wait a bit
[08.04.2011 20:06:42] Order|Cdr.Brian.Scott: When the boss says.
[08.04.2011 20:06:51] Order|Carmen.Richards: sure but lets do it together
[08.04.2011 20:06:51] Will.Robinson: //i'll try to reconnect cause lagin hard
[08.04.2011 20:06:52] <(JayDee)>: good
[08.04.2011 20:06:56] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: Allright
[08.04.2011 20:07:00] Order|Carmen.Richards: Moving in
[08.04.2011 20:07:01] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: Last warning, stop or we will open fire!
[08.04.2011 20:07:02] Alan_Strem: Verin, lets go clouser to
[08.04.2011 20:07:12] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: CD it
[08.04.2011 20:07:12] Death: Sir_Lehnerson was killed by M82 (Missile/Torpedo)
[08.04.2011 20:07:18] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: Atack
[08.04.2011 20:07:29] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: rest guard hole
[08.04.2011 20:07:35] Order|Cdre.M.Golanski: we need get that bunter

[Tommeh]

No, I dont like the current status. We're being ganked and have no one to call for helpl.

No, its not the Secondary's fault. I've been secondary since SwissScorch. I've seen good Indies. Iron Legion, TOP, TCG. The new Wedjat. Its not our fault.

Not completely fault but greatly.
I don't count Iron Legion, TOP, even TCG as normal indies, why?Cause they have understandments of RP and need to speak english here.
There has been few issues in past with TCG, partly due to some grudges partly due to disagreements in RP.
Yes back then my opinion was that they are harming Order RP, that changed in some way, they changed in certain way, everyone changed.

Problem are those who don't speak english and don't know what is RP. How can Order| control those?
You can not do anything if he is ganking, if he is attacking fighters with 3123 caps, he is doing cannon rp, no report can pass through. If they break server rules, and ignore my attempts to warn them about breaking rules, people that get hurt by their rule breaking are lazy to fill a report, what is left to us to then

I chose poor organization. But thats not my only reason. More of a combo of a few. But this one was the best blanket.

Reason:

I've seen Order| think they are better. Iv seen lolwuts over and over.

I've been Order since SwissScorch. Lost FL, came back under Ophi's first stint.

The Order's highpoint was when our relations with SCRA, NLH, BD, and VF were strong.

Don't judge Order's status by it's diplomacy please, it has nothing to do with it.
While we were in good relations with SCRA, BD hated us, for some time NLH aswell during SCRA's attacks on them.
Hellfire hated us too due buddy relations with Coalition. During good relations with NLH, again BD hated us.

Now...

SCRA and NLH hate us, VF is nearly dead, BD is weakly allied, we just started with the HF.

Poor organization, poor leadership.

I want the Order to be what it was when Ophi was Rand Seith. Minus Kelt.

Why was there the SCCRA backstab?

I'll qoute someone from ingame.

"Thier holding onto a crumbling empire"

Something to that effect.

As explained above alliance with SCRA was closing more doors then opening, it was not worth it.
NLH openly treated Nomads as neutrals and opened fire on Order, what is there to discuss it?
Should be stay buddy buddy only cause their base in bretonia avaliable for us, and ignore main aspects of Order RP.
Alliance with BD is stronger after SCRA one ended.
I want Order to be what it was back then too, guess what? That time has passed.
We can't go back, Ophi was great faction leader, better then anyone else so far in Order|.
But he is gone, he couldn't take all the crap related with disco, and he left, leftovers of that leadership are still struggling around. We our best, if we are so poor, fine. Who thinks it can do better, is quite welcome to take over.

Leadership needs an overhaul, alliances need to be formed. We wont survive in Omicron Mu without any alliances. The Order needs to be overhauled from its roots, from the OHC down to the Ensigna.

Current Order diplomacy is exactly as it should be, if we have 343534 allies at the time when Nomads are suppose to strike Minor, then we will get backup and pwn them and keep Minor.
When (if) 4.86 arrives, then we will think about new alliances, Order position in Omicrons will change.
A lot's of things concerning whole Sirius will change hopefully, we won't form INRP alliances for future while INRP we can't know what will happen.

I say this as a prominent Indie and an Order| Corporal.

Our status: FUBAR.

This needs to be fixed.

And for the record, not by me. Im not the right guy.

I have in mind two or three people who can hopefully turn it around. Them in positions to do anything?

Not yet.

Thats my say.

Tommeh and Anon also make good points.

So does sadtranslation.

Our roleplay,is screwed atm. Again overhaul

Nothing else really...

-Jeremy

You make it sound so easy Jeremy.
Order RP is not screwed, just been stagnant for to long.
Same old fights and battles, Minor/Delta.
If we go out of Omicrons then it's our fault again for not control indies, or bullying them around when even we spend minimum of time in there.

People are overreacting, no one will sacrifice so much time to overhaul entire faction, especially with large pleyerbase such as Order one.
Everyone would want better Leadership, we can't get better one, deal with it or don't play Order.

@Zahas, and what are you gonna do about it?
Order| made a mistake, you gonna flame on forums and achieve nothing like you did now, or PM faction Leader with proof so it doesn't repeat again? Huh....

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