Aoi Iseijin General Information and Place to cry your eyes out

[Jeremy Hunter]

Nice Shagohad.

I love reading well-written lore.

Who flies the Mandate of Heaven now?,

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[mjolnir]

Compare date vs the date in my quoted post?

Anyway summing up the whole argument in as simple statements as possible:

Questions:

Why do you use Nomad Lasers?
What's the RP reasons to use them over hybrid guns?
Why do you use Outcast guns?


Answers:

a)They are not overpowered because....
b)We would win even if we used something else.....
c)We never agreed to not to use them...


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My opinions:

a) Kusari ships with them are significantly better than with any other Kusari or hybrid guns
b) Most likely and?
c) You did, and there are numerous proofs of that, quite a lot of them were presented, more can be found in chat logs, history on this forum and dev forums

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[Shagohad]

A. Because there is no hybrid-ype gun for the faster weapons.
B. What if we roleplay them like Hybrid guns?
C. We don't. Not anymore.

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[mjolnir]

A. Because there is no hybrid-ype gun for the faster weapons.
B. What if we roleplay them like Hybrid guns?
C. We don't. Not anymore.

A)
So what? No faction has a choice between every gun they can think of.
Most AoI should be ex KNF, second most ex Dragons. KNF uses 600 m/s guns, Dragons have KNF guns for sale on their bases.

In a loadout with 4 Nomad Lasers and 2 Debilitators. Which guns did those Nomad lasers needed to fit in speed with? Debilitators? :lol:

B)

What is RP reason for using Lasers instead of Hybrid guns? .... We RP them as hybrid guns. :wacko:

C)
Seems like it => change in a policy => people ask about it in feedback

For me change in policy/rules compared with what was in place when stats were set, obviously creates combinations that weren't accounted for.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[chopper]

Taken directly from our faction status that was approved by the admins.

Are you absolutely sure that writeup was approved by the admins?
Because, I had a feeling Exile was leading the faction before Akura.
Also, there is nothing about your faction in 'Faction Creation Requests' subsection.

Even if it was approved by the admins, which I doubt (but I'll wait for you to prove it), why didn't you ask for a SRP?
How come the rules don't apply to your faction? The rules are really clear on that one.
If the box is red - you have to get a SRP. If it's white - you have to ask the faction.
You can use Chimaeras since they are sold on your bases.
If we stick to the rules, however, you wouldn't be able to use neither the Kusari Gunboat, Kusari Destroyer, nor Katanas.
Not without SRP's. Go and get them.

Every faction has limitations. Seems like this one doesn't have a single one, and has a 'green light' to go against the rules which apply to everyone.
You can fly any ship from Kusari and RP infections (any pirate could say he stole the ship or found a wreck), you can kill anything with any ship-guns combinations, even your ZOI is huge.
Why should we be happy about it?
I can't mount three nomad blasters on my Bastet, for unknown rule-reasons. Why should I like your Inferno Nomad-Laser Katanas?
Also, your roster could use an update.

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del

[VoluptaBox]

What chopper said.

We wanted to use some Blood Bragon Chimaeras. You know what we've been told? Even if the faction was approved with them, it's red on the tech chart, so no deal. I really find it funny that you can work around that, Don't you?

[Shagohad]

Our bit about the faction write-up is the same as Exile's previous write-up. The only change is the addition of the Hanta-Iseijin. Want me to drag Exile out of retirement so he can tell you this?

They also made it a habit to remove faction creation requests after approval. I can't find the one for the GRP after it was made official, so this isn't new.

Mjolnir, if we start using the hybrid guns, will the Wilde do it as well? We can start using them now if you want. And if we do, will you be happy?

Forgot this bit: A small convo I had with Akura earlier today.

Answers to chopper:
[4:02:59 PM] Akuяa: The Iseijin have admin-approved faction details similar to an SRP. When the faction was made official under Exile, our use of all Kusari and Nomad tech was approved by the Admins
[4:03:29 PM] Akuяa: When I updated it, we were approved to use the KNF ID, and the Admins looked over the Iseijin again and reapproved our use of tech in a vote
[4:03:54 PM] Akuяa: We got Outcast guns when Jameson offered them to use in RP, it's all written up and approved as an SRP

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[Cond0r]

What chopper said.

We wanted to use some Blood Bragon Chimaeras. You know what we've been told? Even if the faction was approved with them, it's red on the tech chart, so no deal. I really find it funny that you can work around that, Don't you?

Costin, you have posted in this thread about 6 times now. In each of your posts you have just quoted what others said and threw in a useless comment like "Hmm interesting" or "Hmm, what he said". If you are not capable of forming your own constructive criticism, or making a new valid argument, please dont bother +1ing. Now unless you can do that, I will just look at your posts as whining because you died to my Nomad Katana the other day. Its convenient that your post came up here a couple of hours after that, isnt it? At least Chopper and Mjolnir managed to formulate some valid questions, which have been, from what I see, answered 20 times already.

And now Im out of here. Wasting time by posting something thats just gonna be ignored anyway because then the other side cant keep arguing. zz

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo

[Rapur]

Question to Mjolnir:

If you think the Kusari wilde's equipment is overpowered, then why don't you nerf it? ( or as Ratni Blodo used to say: fix it/rebalance it)

Personally I'm using blasters on my ship. Decrease the damage down to 520 for all I care. I'm still going to use them 'cuz they look cool :cool:

[Cond0r]

If you think the Kusari wilde's equipment is overpowered, then why don't you nerf it? ( or as Ratni Blodo used to say: fix it/rebalance it)

Cuz then people wouldnt have anything to cry about in this feedback. Unless they died again ingame, then its the same old thing over again, "Why are you using Nomad Blasters?":lol:

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo