Looking for Hessian ship models

[Vladimir]

to clarify something about the osiris reverse speed...

a reverse speed of 60 isn t of much use when you are FACING your enemy. - it is meant to keep a flexible distance while NOT facing your enemy.

a good osiris captain keeps a distance of around 2.5-3k from its enemy ( usually a marduk ) - and flies straight on. if the marduk charges cruise - the osiris will do the same. if the marduk goes into reverse - the osiris does the same - but reverses quicker at a greater speed, cause it ll take some seconds reaction for the osiris to notice that the enemy is reversing - hence getting the distance too great.

now - if you have a F-gun... you will be facing the enemy one way or another - and the reverse of 60 means nothing when your enemy charges you with 90ms. - your distance shrinks down inevitably.

an osiris like reverse works best - if the battleship had a REARWARDS cannon ( but while practical - what faction would build that.... it kinda comes about cowardly to build a battleship with all its weapons pointing backwards )
in short - forward cannons are good for BHG tactics... which can be summed up like that : CHARGE!!!

Reverse speed of 60 + fw gun = more time to shoot it while reversing from incoming battleturtle. If it's firepower would be good enough to even the chances when the RM BS comes close enough for primaries - then it's good. Also did you mean BFG?




And yeah, it looks nice. I'd prefer i to be a bit less "not well-cared about" but ooh welll.

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[Cond0r]

The model looks very nice with that texture job.

Overall, really well done.

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo

[Luis]

if this gets implemented - its best to change the Cruiser i model.

[VoluptaBox]

noooooooooo

that cruiser is badass :crazy:

[tansytansey]

Well, the model was designed with the forward gun and looks cool with it. I don't figure we will be changing anything at this stage just to get a little pvp advantage:P

Anyway the rest is a matter of balance. It's an interesting idea to make it really slow to turn/strafe, but well armoured kind of like a mini RM BS. If there is any way to make such an approach balanced, then why not:P

I was talking from an in-RP ship building perspective. Designing a forward gun for a Battleship in these fighting conditions is absurd. A rear firing cannon would be much more suitable.

I dunno jinx.. using a liberty cruiser tactic might work nice.

Use the 60 speed to stall your enemy, lining up 3-4 shots with he FWD gun at 3.5-3k range.. once the range drops to 2.5k, turn around and bug out of there before you get too close.

forward guns work ESPECIALLY well in packs.. as the hostile can only face on direction.

Go compare the time it takes for a Liberty Siege Cruiser to turn around comapred with the time it takes for a medium battleship (ie Liberty Dread) to turn around. If you're facing your opponent you have two options, you can joust them or you can try to turn around. Jousting a Rheinland Battleship is already decidedly suicide, and turning around once you're in firing range is even more so, since it takes a hundred years, during which the other ship is firing on you with sixteen guns of blazing plasma, and you can't do anything except pray you'll still be alive by the time you can turn around and return fire. By which time the Rheinland Battleship is probably too close to you any way, GG.

if this gets implemented - its best to change the Cruiser i model.

Your crusier is a superior design Luis. If anything it's the Battleship that should be changed to fit more with your design. Although there are things on your design that could do with some tweaks as well.

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[Pinko]

Your crusier is a superior design Luis. If anything it's the Battleship that should be changed to fit more with your design. Although there are things on your design that could do with some tweaks as well.

Woops, I was told I was wrong.

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[Lobster]

Go compare the time it takes for a Liberty Siege Cruiser to turn around comapred with the time it takes for a medium battleship (ie Liberty Dread) to turn around. If you're facing your opponent you have two options, you can joust them or you can try to turn around. Jousting a Rheinland Battleship is already decidedly suicide, and turning around once you're in firing range is even more so, since it takes a hundred years, during which the other ship is firing on you with sixteen guns of blazing plasma, and you can't do anything except pray you'll still be alive by the time you can turn around and return fire. By which time the Rheinland Battleship is probably too close to you any way, GG.

Possible solution:

Bump the forward gun's range up to 5k? That way you can take a few shots and turn at 4k.

Perhaps even 1 min long refire (so that it will be able to take potshots), but in return for the long refire, 2-3 HMs worth of damage.. or perhaps a EMP blast that would down a BS's shield in one shot.

Again, just brainstorming...

[Hades]

Your crusier is a superior design Luis. If anything it's the Battleship that should be changed to fit more with your design. Although there are things on your design that could do with some tweaks as well.

You had your chance to specify what it was you thought needed to be changed, but you never provided anything really specific or useful in any way, so it's a bit late now.

[Boss]

Besides the fact that I love the sexified Odin.

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Just go play the game and have fun dammit.

all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.

[Shagohad]

the fwd gun tactic works with the lib cruiser because it turns faster than battleships as well, so i can start evading shots faster than a bs would be able to. a forward gun on this battleship would be next to useless given the fact that you'd spend more time trying to aim/evade fire than actually firing it. if this is to be a small/medium battleship, its better off giving it more turret firepower than focus on a forward gun.

the model looks nice btw.

Except the Valor. It's meant to charge in and take shots like a champion while burning things with its forward gun, right?

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