Right, A while back I posted in the comm thread a request for Council VHF - which despite being told by others was probably a bad move, I ignored and went ahead with it anyway - end result, it was quickly pushed down the ranking and therefore missed by any would-be engineers. So. Here is a non RP request for the ship modelers of Disco to come up with a VHF for the Council. We will pay 500 million for the completed work.
What we'd like is a vessel that blends in with the current ship line - but only to a degree, the hope is, we could get a more modern design and explain it as the Councils first solo designed and manufactured vessel - so it doesn't have to look like a rust bucket. Please.
Obviously we're not expecting this to be shoe-horned into the next mod, but if we get a design ready now it might make it easy to get the ship implemented into future mods or updates.
500 million for just the model or for the whole package (model, texture, working in-game, etc)? I might try coming up with something if I have the time, and if you have anything like concept art or some ideas to how you want it to look, that would be wonderful!
Why are people obsessed with the idea that people will only build them a ship if they bribe them with money? It's just stupid. I have no respect for any modeller who would only work because there's credits involved :/
I have no interest at all in making this ship.
500 million you say? I am interested, still won't do it though as my fighters look like arse and I don't like fiddling with other people's work.
What makes people spend their time trading?
Developing usually is done for free but when folks do get paid, it very rarely matches the equivalent time spent on the model or dev work as a whole.
In relation to this request.
Ask Doom.
He made the entire GRN and Council shiplines.
similarity to the current shipline is not important. just as mike said, there is absolutely no need for it, as this would be the first council-designed ship. this means that after breaching the minefield, the council might have gotten help from sirian factions and create their own fighter.
the whole idea behind the design is, that the council pilots used to the agama can gain advantage from ship speed and agility. with this in mind, we thought of this project being to lynx what katana is to chimaera. meaning less armor and core but increased agility
Hades, the 500 million is for the full kit - so it could eventually be implemented into the mod. Arrangements can be made if only a portion of the job can be done by a single person.
As far as concept art goes, this is where I'm drawing a blank - obviously the Gecko and Agama are a decent start point, but as Vlko pointed out, the idea is that this ship has been commissioned and produced from the ground up - so it doesn't have to look like an Agama on steroids. Although, taking an Agama and 'roiding it up might be a good start.
Ashes, the 500 million is a my way of compensating someone for taking their time and using their skills to do something that I can't - paying/reimbursing someone for work done is hardly a bribe, it's a sign that the Council is serious and wants a ship. Having never asked anyone to create a ship before and not knowing any designers personally means I have to make a polite request to the community for the work I want.
' Wrote:Ashes, the 500 million is a my way of compensating someone for taking their time and using their skills to do something that I can't - paying/reimbursing someone for work done is hardly a bribe, it's a sign that the Council is serious and wants a ship. Having never asked anyone to create a ship before and not knowing any designers personally means I have to make a polite request to the community for the work I want.
The problem is, if you start offering credits then modellers are going to start expecting payment. None of the dev team recieves payment for their work, so why should an independant modeller?
If a modellers motivation is only money, then don't expect the work to be good. They'll do the least amount or work possible to get their pay. As opposed to someone who actually wants to do the work, and is self-motivated to do a good job.
Didn't i had similar talk with someone trough PM or some other means of communication?
Well, yes i did...i received same request and as far as i can remember i said council will get their VHF in due time. I have no plans of adding such model in 4.86, nor i ever did ....
However, long term plan includes some upgrading on current models of council ships and better textures, so then new ship of the line will be added....
Gallia still is missing some ships we take for granted in rest of the Sirius and those ships were/are first on my list. Council VHF isn't so urgent....and besides, i have plans to add more ships to Council then just VHF....
So, be patient as this mod isn't made over night (actually when you look at it, it isnt made over a year:lol:)
Doom, ok - wasn't aware someone had already discussed this with you - I'm looking forward to seeing the re-textures of the Council ship line. The only thing I will say - as a Council player - is that a VHF is urgent as thats what I want to fly:D
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