Open letter to LSF and USS

[Equinox]

I don't see any reason why gate camping to stop smuggling should be used, its pretty lame.

May aswell remove the Smuggler ID altogether if these tactics are going to be used.

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[Spear]

Well I missed this incident but frankly this is just ridiculous. As had been said there is more than one way into NY and LSF are not just in Zone 21 to end smugglers good times. We are turning back everyone now. Zone 21 is for LSF, SA, LPI and Bounty Hunters only. The Bounty Hunters I allow access to continue their war with the Order as those two factions NPC's use Alaska as their battleground. And it seems good RP to allow them to get to the battle.

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=LSF=

[Unseelie]

I don't see any reason why gate camping to stop smuggling should be used, its pretty lame.

May aswell remove the Smuggler ID altogether if these tactics are going to be used.

The gate camping to stop smugglers is deplorable.
What is ok, is keeping everyone out of Z 21, an Idea that is fully within RP, and quite defenseable.

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[blubba]

I am not a smuggler *cough* but I think the Libery security forces (of which there are a number) are right to blockade the JH. I've been pulled just for going through there. Apparantly it's restricted and it costs 1 million credits in fines...ouch. I would like to point out however that I'm not sure we should have trigger happy mercs or bounty hunters there (you know who you are) as it is, after all restricted. Thats the first gripe.
I do sympathise with Global though because there is no longer any 'luck' involved. Sure you used to get busted a few times and sometimes you'd make it but not anymore. It would be far more interesting to make the bloated Liberty outfits work for their money. Your not going to stop smugglers trying cos thats the only place you can sell Artifacts realistically. It makes for an incredibly depressing day if you know you are always going to get caught going the ONLY way. On that basis, gripe no.2. Open the JH to Colorado again or somewhere else close by. Give both the Liberty guys AND the smugglers a run at it. (This is supposed to be fun pilots)! That way, some you win, some you lose and that goes for both the police and the smugglers.
Any ship going through Alaska without LSF or LNS or whatever in their names should EXPECT to get challenged (wherever they come out) which is right but giving them only the one exit is wrong. It's the mod gents, not the players.

I must point out that I don't know of any other exits from Alaska so if there are, I just made an arse of myself. :$

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[Magoo!]

GAH! Posting now, leaving out a page and a half due to the fact its been growing exponentially and has gotten, incidentally, a page and a half longer since I started. So, if I restate anything... I can't read that fast.

Okay! Bases, first base...

Basically... According to this theory:

Do you see any Corsair NPCs in Liberty?

That is all.

Lets see... I find it highly unfair to judge this entire argument on NPC's. So, theoretically, the Navy can bum-bust Minor because their NPC's are there, but the Order can't strike back at them because... Well, haha, they don't appear in Liberty.

*explode settlement on Toledo* - LSF: "Ha! Pwnt u, nubzor."
Order - "We'll get you next time, LSF! Perhaps in the next update when the Order gets a base and spawns NPC's in New York and Liberty! *shakes fist*"

... Righto. Let me recap first base. Zoners can't go practically anywhere. The Navy has the right to... For lack of a more crude term; pwn anybody in the half of Sirius. And, to top it all off... This... Relates to the AW somehow. Good one, kids.

Oh, and also... Please, print off a screen shot of Liberty NPC's near the NY-side of the Alaska JG. Platforms don't count, but please. I'd love to see it.

Second base! There is a difference between this:

SURPRISE was waiting on me. one liberty fighter 200m near jg, liberty gb 800m from jg and liberty battlecruiser 7,9k from jg

And this:

Its ok for TBH and other corsairs to block crete from passengers, but not for LSF/Navy to block artifacts?

Here... I'll make a pretty diagram for all to see!
This (fair, fun play)....... .... (JG) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(Authorities)
And this (Silliness at the excuse of RP).... .... (JG)~(Authorities)-"Pwnt u!"

The tildes (~'s) represent distance.

Yes. Essentially, there is a difference between people guarding a planet, and people spawn-raping a gate. Pictures and text... Surely some of you more stubborn individuals can understand now? Not to be insulting, but stubborness is a trait that even I possess a certain amount of.

Base three! Get pumped, kids!
Do you see a mobster, lined from head to toe with his pockets filled with... Illegal narcotics, walking around without some bodyguards? No? Me either... What a coincidence. You aren't going to go through a security check point, have everything discovered by 10 armed guards, then proceed to sit down at the end of a table and say, "Welcome to the family."

More than likely, if he *absolutely* has to go through said checkpoint, he'll have his people take out the guards and he'll get to his... Plane to Cuba or whatever. -Edit- I said... "I'm not quite" right here before. Don't know what I was thinking at the time. Thank you, that is all.

Home base! Woooh!... Right. This is my riff-raff base/point-maker/shoot down lots of peoples views and opinions part of my tirade.

It sounds to me like the LSF and the USS are just grumpy bunnies who aren't getting let out of their cage enough. So... In turn, when they do get the chance to indulge themselves, they go all-out... All crazy-like. They camp super-trafficked areas, writing up shady tickets and looking for reasons to jump all over people for... What are really, no good reasons.

Mr. Snipe... Insults wont get anybody much of anywhere. So far its been a heated argument but eh... Well, you called a good 5 of us, "Whiners."

haha this thread is funny... i will now stop posting because i have better things to do with my time than argue with a bunch of whiners.

P.S. This makes six! But this at least serves a logical purpose. It was a question instead of, "YOU MAKE ME FURIOUS! -Insert, TT clan, Bounty Hunters, etc. -

Good night (afternoon), and good luck!

[globalplayer-svk]

ok as i say i have nothing again that what has be maked. this was only to inform liberty why will i come with corsairs as escort. And i mean escort not attack force to attack mannhatan or something. But i was asking one question, that noone answer me. 2 from you post here that zone 21 is only for lsf,sa and the others. so my question again.what make the USS battlecruiser there and why has noone say to him that he is in restricted zone?and no i have nothing again him,or uss as group, but as i say, 2 of you post here who is alowed be in zone 21 and USS was not typed.

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[pipsqueak]

ok as i say i have nothing again that what has be maked. this was only to inform liberty why will i come with corsairs as escort. And i mean escort not attack force to attack mannhatan or something. But i was asking one question, that noone answer me. 2 from you post here that zone 21 is only for lsf,sa and the others. so my question again.what make the USS battlecruiser there and why has noone say to him that he is in restricted zone?and no i have nothing again him,or uss as group, but as i say, 2 of you post here who is alowed be in zone 21 and USS was not typed.

Hi, Read the whole thing and I will try to answer your question
Its a simple unbiased answer bud.....
Why are they there ? because its their space.
Why were you shot?
You had Cardi.

As for having no other exit from Alaska...yeah, thats bad, I agree. Traders generally look for alternate routes but in Alaskas case there is nothing out there. you can only fly back to Delta or Toledo to dock.
A JH to colorado, better yet, illinois would be nice.
May be at another JH to Texas from Alaska (way out in lala land).

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[globalplayer-svk]

pipsqueak,you read it?i have not cardi:)

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[MB52]

Zone 21 is restricted.. you enter.. expect to die.

Besides its poor RP to even use that jumpgate.. considering you'd realistically need pass-codes to activate it. Like in the SP.

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[Simsonator]

I agree, if it is navy owned then i think it is out of rp for anybody to just fly through imo, and seeing as this will never happen in the game what is wrong with the liberty forces blockading it. Fair enough maybe we could move back further towards the NY-Texas TL. Could then see how well smugglers dodge under very constricted fire and surrounded by thousands upon thousands of mines. Simply put, if us LSF are in that vicinity what is to stop smugglers going via the texas JH and coming through the Badlands. That makes more sense to me anyway (very low visability, scanners find it hard to work there)

But thats my opinion....