FR5 only using TLAGSNET?

[sadtranslation]

Then he is in trouble. And the Police factions shouldn't really care.

On a side note, once players suddenly find their reputation sheet fixed, they learn to use forum, to talk with people they encounter and generally become much better.

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[Hone]

Then hes out of luck, like if someone got bastiiled, hed be stuck there till he used the forum.

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[rewritable]

Things would be much more simple if /showscan had 5-10% chance to return a completely random value for cargo. Accurate enough to pursue and set traps for reported smugglers, inaccurate enough to not be able to rely exclusively on TLAGSNET without need of moving anywhere.
Someone wants to go on FR5 frenzy based just on /showscan? Go on, just take in account you'll hit a whole bunch of innocents along the way. Though I wonder if presumption of innocence is still upheld in any part of Sirius.

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[Hone]

You might as well add in a 5-10% chance of your ship scanners giving you a false reading, seeing as they are based on the same technology.

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[SnakThree]

No?:DCompare possible scanners in lanes and mobile ships.

Edit: I meant, ships are goinmg through lanes when space is bended between it, so it can make the scan unclear. While scanners on ships are short range but very effective at it.

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[Hone]

And when a ship enters or exits a lane, it is sitting still easily scanable right next to it, which is when it is scanned, have you not noticed thats when you get the msg? really...

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[Daedric]

Utilizing the forum as a means to contact a player is perfectly acceptable. Contacting someone with only a TLAGSNET scan likely won't be sufficient for an FR5 though.

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[Hielor]

I'd say that this point is a tad irrelevant. Forum is as valid for contacting the other characters as in-game meeting. It's not the problem of RFP, it's a problem of IC| and the player in question.

Then he is in trouble. And the Police factions shouldn't really care.

Utilizing the forum as a means to contact a player is perfectly acceptable.

The problem is that you're just posting a thread in an extremely high-traffic area of the forum, where it's very easy to miss if someone only checks the forums every couple days. I check the forums every day, and when I get around to doing it for the first time each day there are still 7 pages of unread posts to sort through. Missing a post isn't entirely unexpected.

No, after he violated the Rheinland Laws, he was contacted via forum. This is an interaction.

You didn't contact him. You posted a thread in the forum that could easily get lost in all the mess. "All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you'€™ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it'€™s far too late to start making a fuss about it now."

Personally, I would think it wouldn't be totally unreasonable for you take five seconds to send an in-game PM as well, saying something along the lines of (in the RFP case) "This is an automated message informing you that an attempt has been made to contact your ship via the Neural Net" or something.

Nowhere does it say that forum usage is required to play on the server. If someone isn't using the forum, you shouldn't be taking advantage of that in order to get them punished without them even knowing about it.

Interaction, to me, should require evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person has received the message. Whether it's an in-game PM, a forum PM, or an in-game transmission in system/local when the person is within range, shouldn't matter. If the person then ignores you, you've got every right to go forward with whatever RP consequences you have in mind.

[SnakThree]

And when a ship enters or exits a lane, it is sitting still easily scanable right next to it, which is when it is scanned, have you not noticed thats when you get the msg? really...

And police scans at the very same time? Really... What if I drop out in the middle between lane rings? Really...

What strikes me most that there was on ingame interaction, where all the action is happening. Forums are for forumlancers and is not mandatory to play the Freelancer. I started playing the game, not RPing on forum when I hardly knew anything ingame. Same for most of us. If RFP will not be bothering to interact or move away from one point, they won't contribute to server RP. Which is main factor why community exists and why RP can be continued on forums.

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[Tigger]

G'day all!

I've read this topic with quite a bit of interest, especially with me being a newer player and having a character with a smuggler ID. I started on the server first for about 5 days, found the forums on day 3 and joined on roughly day 5. I'd also been using the wiki but quickly realized it was the *wrong* wiki (disco USA). :P But hey, I'm a newb trying not to be a n00b.

Started out with an independent trader ID. Being level 36 and carrying a load worth about 2 mil and being stopped 5 times being told "giv" or "5milrdai" got tiring fast. By the 5th stop on a 2 mil run I was like...go ahead and blow me...up.

Then I chose a smuggler ID and mixed lawful and unlawful equipment. (Would have been nice to know that the info cards about non-scanability of the civie freighter and firefly are bogus in regards to player characters.):) I also had the misperception that if I got the rep up to green to the unlawfuls I wouldn't be pirated. Obviously that's not the case, but at least there's some real RP in there, and in doing the RP the 3 mil taxes have sometimes been reduced to 150K (which is great since I had like 5 mil in the hold and about 450K in the pocket).

So, to the relevance to this thread...I had never heard of TLAGSNET before a few days ago. I had dropped off a legal load at Los Angeles and picked up another heading for Cambridge (opti chips I think), to meet a friend in that area. [I never go empty if I can help it]. I came out of the lane heading towards the Cortez gate and got a green private comm that is paraphrased as "I see you smuggler, you're on my list now, beware if you transport contraband in Liberty." I was like WTF?? I checked my scanners, nothing. I checked the player list...I was just about the only person in Cali at the time and no navy or police. I didn't reply and didn't do a screen shot...I was that confused.

On another trip I had stopped to have a chat with some LR folks and they were very much doing an "LMAO he's using lanes". They gave me some good RP about how the police could track you if you used the trade lanes, but I had no idea of the detail that could be gained until I found this thread and then the handbook on TLAGSNET.

I've had fun playing the smuggler part, crossing systems on cruise, and alternating legal and illegal loads to confuse the cops, and occasionally assisting the unlawfuls with carrying loot in too large of quantity for their own ships. What bothers me is that while carrying a legal cargo I got messaged just because I had a smuggler's ID. Between that and a couple of other issues I've temporarily gone back to a Freelancer ID, which I suppose means I can do pretty much the same thing I'd been doing cargo-wise, but without the hassle of being pegged two systems away just for an ID scan and not the contents of the ship.

Meh, until I get back to a better connection my PvP inclined ships shall stay in dry dock, my transport wil likely do the same, and I'll try my hand at mining. At least in the message from the cop there was a teensy bit of RP, but I would have thought that I shouldn't have been contacted unless I had something illegal in the scan.

-Jeni


EDIT: Just saw, using a link from another thread, that water, food rations & oxygen require a special license in Bretonia. M'kay, ummm...yeah...my transport ship is gonna stay in dry dock, not going to pay millions in fines for a load that will net me a few hundred K, if that much.

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