Gunboat class miner (for all lawful mining IDs)

[Hexx]

I'd expect that pirate vessels like those two wouldn't be so firmly "economical" as "survivable". Though that is a good point. You really can't apply real life examples to Freelancer.

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It's Hexx against the world.

Hexx won.

[maximus995]

why not give outcasts even more overpowerd weaps than the admin weaps, after all cardamine makes us lots smarter n stuff. and everyone seems to pull toghetter to gank us anyways (today was an IMG, CR, EDGE, Corsair combo (sun))

just saying: what your asking for is an overpowerd miner that doesnt fits into RP

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[Kharon]

Thank you, Govedo for clarifying him/her that.:)

Well i disagree, to clarify that aswell.

Hegemon is conciderably larger, nomatter it even has 650 cargo less than a Pirate Transport and it is much slower aswell, so it is hardly a match (as you should know well).

You all just want to pirate so very easy and you can.

It is out of balance, clearly.

So i want a Mining Gunboat, more agile than an Salvager with less cargo and more hardpoints.

You want to pirate you have to catch one alone in a quiet spot with 2 of yours. Thats more like Pirate RP should be.

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[Govedo13]

Since you dont want to see the points of the participants in the discussion and you want stuff I urge you to model the ship submit it and wait to be approved, as it seems your point of view is the only right one.

And no you haven't met the Avalanche's False.Miner Hegg, the fact is that the most of the Hegg users dont know how to use this ship in pvp,excluding the skill factor Hegg is no way worst then P- transp- it have the same turrets count, much more hull and bat/bots, have good stafe, P transp on the other side packs more energy and smaller size,it is just matter of different tactics for different kind of ships, nothing more or less.
May be the p-transp is not as harder to learn to fly like Hegg who knows.

You want to pirate you have to catch one alone in a quiet spot with 2 of yours. Thats more like Pirate RP should be.

You want to mine so you have to use several escorts and haulers, impossible to be cached by several pirates even in noisy spots. Thats more like Miner RP should be.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Shagohad]

The Pirate Transport is...
The Slave Liner is...

Seems to me your are or play blind on one side and i guess i know why:

Your just not skilled enough or not willing to pirate without your huge "technical advantage"?

The pirate trans and the slave liner are not designed by civilians for civilians. They were re-purposed by pirates and slavers. Or just designed by them. They're meant to be brutal and well-armed.

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[Pancakes]

The pirate trans and the slave liner are not designed by civilians for civilians. They were re-purposed by pirates and slavers. Or just designed by them. They're meant to be brutal and well-armed.

That. Pirate transport is built... well to pirate!
Moreover, any lone bomber/KuEx will take on a Ptrans too, Ptrans is simply better when it comes to Transport vs Transport fight. Also there was Avalanche with his The.False.Miner - a cau8 hegemon that made 500m (pretty sure it was 500m, if someone else remembers correct me please) in 3 days.
So quit the whining, plus if you want so much, make a cau8 lux liner and fill it using a mafic with full debs + SNAC (well not fulls debs cuz one is fighter mining turret but nvm) I dare the KuEx that will do you trouble.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Alley]

The Pirate Transport is...
The Slave Liner is...

Seems to me your are or play blind on one side and i guess i know why:

Your just not skilled enough or not willing to pirate without your huge "technical advantage"?

I'd like to know what your problem is to flame people you don't know ?
If you can't keep it civil don't post, you'll save everyone else time. I don't participate to this forum to see such things.

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Alley was right.

[Dab]

On that note, this is a warning about behavior in this thread.

Don't suggest something, then insult anyone who doesn't share your opinion.

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[Hielor]

There's a better solution: fix transport turrets so there's more than one valid choice.

[Osilon]

Join an official faction? Get a teammate to protect your miner? You talk about 'making pirates teamplay', when the vessel you suggest would be completely against teamwork.

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A million dollars isn't cool. You know what is cool? A basilisk.