Quote:* Technology from factions that are hostile to each other may not be combined. For example, a Mercenary cannot use Bretonian weaponry on a Kusari ship. Also, technology cannot be used if it belongs to a faction that is hostile to your IFF/Tag. For example, a Mercenary with a Bretonian IFF/Tag cannot use any Kusari technology. IDs that are only granted by the Admininstration may allow these hostile combinations, if approved (Terrorist ID, Special Operative ID, etc).
About that dumb excuses for 'individuality'... Does this mean every member of every faction is solely responsible for his acts? Faction has nothing to do with it, am I right, mods?
How do you comment on this then?
You all bashed that faction out of it's existence based solely on it's leader doing something that has nothing to do with that exact faction.
Isn't Silver.Reaver like, in charge now, with Dusty away?
Hipocracy much?
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
' Wrote:Personal and not faction feedback related beyond the fact that said player is in the faction.
' Wrote:I come to collect a bounty on a random Reaver, and you start yapping in OOC about various things, such as not being a bounty on you, 'who the frack am I', and that I'm not allowed to use Council weapons outside Sirius.
Are you saying that this is personal and not faction related feedback?
@chopper: Red cell on the tech chart doesn't prove hostility between factions.
Okey lets try to look at the facts only:
1 Silver Reaver is member of Reavers- yes
2 As member of this faction he has access to IMG/Corsair guns -yes
3 According to the Rules he should not combine them because they are hostile- yes
4 Faction witch applys for official one should try to have certain level of decent RP and try to avoid OORP hate in system channel -yes
5 Personal will be if Techy flames against the person who flys SilverReaver, but he is just nice and dont submit violaton report for the points 2 and 4. He brings it to the faction feedback with the idea to help the faction to improve themselves.
6 Mods -wut?
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
I hereby ask an official explanation from the moderator team.
Can you please explain what is faction feedback and what is personal feedback?
Also, take in to consideration that this is not a feedback thread.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
How come rants about the Aoi Iseijin and their tech can go on for pages in the double digits yet bringing up the fact that a member of a faction has broken server rules is considered personal bias and individual problems?
Kaze is a member of the Reavers. The Reavers are a faction. Teschy has feedback. Be it negative or positive, it is a legitimate reason to post in the REAVER FACTION FEEDBACK. The attitudes of members reflect the attitudes of the faction.
As the metaphor says, it takes one turd to ruin the punch bowl. From experience, I've learned that if you don't address the issues of your members and their behavior, then the quality of your faction and the way others perceive it just goes down hill.
Instead of saying, "Oh right. We'll see what we can do" you went straight to, "Teschy hates Kaze. This isn't forum-worthy." What gives?
"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THESCIENCEIS LEAKING OUT!"
lol, personal? That's suggesting that to ever criticize a faction, every single member of that faction has to do something to be criticized.
As a faction, your members represent eachother, especially when trying to become official. Any one ooRP, or any type of issue by any one player affects the faction as a whole.
Can't say the mods are in the right on this one. At all.
Because this is skating dangerously close to trial by forum.
If you have a sanction report to file, do so. But I feel that this has gone beyond the level of feedback on a faction creation request, and is focused on a single individual's load out.
Personal feedback can be defined easily as feedback on an individual.
Faction feedback can be defined as feedback on a faction (or in this case creation request).
If you have a point to make about the Reavers in general, it belongs here, if you are going to hammer a single point about a single member of the group... well you get my point here.
I am asking you to stay on topic, deal with things the correct way, and to resolve this in a way that preserves good gaming spirit.
' Wrote:Because this is skating dangerously close to trial by forum.
If you have a sanction report to file, do so. But I feel that this has gone beyond the level of feedback on a faction creation request, and is focused on a single individual's load out.
Personal feedback can be defined easily as feedback on an individual.
Faction feedback can be defined as feedback on a faction (or in this case creation request).
If you have a point to make about the Reavers in general, it belongs here, if you are going to hammer a single point about a single member of the group... well you get my point here.
I am asking you to stay on topic, deal with things the correct way, and to resolve this in a way that preserves good gaming spirit.
Thank you.
~Alvin.Katz
And I asked you why you were personally involved in bashing of another faction in it's creation request, with points made only about it's leader doing something out of that faction?
Is this so hard to answer? I have nothing against that bashing btw, but you are trying to do exactly the opposite thing now. Why double standards?
As for the Reavers, it's not about loadout, it's about conduct. I am concerned about a faction going for official status doing things it does, so I'm expressing my concern. What's so hard to understand?
Techy had a problem with Silver having bad form of RP (or OORP in public chat), so he asked why is that so.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
I'm sorry, you're making it a trial by forum by insisting that questioning behavior of member of this faction on said faction character is not related to this faction but a personal attack.
This is not how faction creation request and feedback threads should be handled.
Complaining about two lines of out of character speech is BLEH. Especially since all that was provided was a very selectively edited image. Being so selective in the edit leads me to believe that there is something to hide on the part of the person providing the proof.
As for the claims about fair play and sportsmanship. Both are subjective. What one person feels is fair and what another person does won't always jive. Sportsmanship? Same as fair play. Though, I'm not entirely sure why I even bothered with that claim. Since it is merely a claim with no supporting proof. If you think Kaze is so bad and it is such an issue, why have you failed to provide anything that supports your claim?
I fly with Kaze frequently and I've never seen poor sportsmanship displayed. As for the rest of it? I'll leave that up to the boss when he is online. I will ask that if you are going to make claims like Teschy has made, that you at least have proof to support them. Same as what 90% of other factions ask.
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