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Battleship Vs Fighters - Balance

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Battleship Vs Fighters - Balance
Offline Titan*
08-03-2015, 11:27 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2015, 01:51 PM by Titan*.)
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Destroying billion dollar ship with 4-5 fighter (worths only 100m) makes no sense

I think adding more hit points to shields would be balanced.


Now
Battleship shield Capacity is
460.000
4800 Regen

4800 regen means you need 4800+ Dps to damage Battleship Shield
Well... Most of the Fighter weapons does 1.5k to shields
%90 of the people using 4 weapons and 2 anti shield weapons

4 Flashpoint (8.33)
1138 Dps to Shield
1138 x 4= 4552 Dps to Shield
Also Don't forget the Anti-Shield weapons
2 Adv. Deb (4.00)
2616 Dps to Shield
2616 x 2 = 5232 Dps to Shield

4552 + 5232 = 9784

9784 - 4800 = 4948 Dmg to BS Shield

This is way too much. Battleship Shield regen not enough to counter this damage. Of course if Battleship using Positron Shield, Fighter will do low damage to shield but still, there is enough firepower to damage Bs Shield

Here is my Ideas

1.Add more Shield Points to BS Shield and Regen rate

2.Better resistant against all Damage Types except Direct Damage.

%250 Resistant would be great
Flashpoints shield Dps will lower to 189 Dps.
Now VHF with 4 Flashpoints+2 Deb
Flashpoints;
189 x 4 = 756 Dmg per second
Adv. Debs (Full Damage Cuz Direct Damage)
2616 x 2 = 4552 Dmg Per second

4552+756 = 5308 Dmg

5308 - 4800 = 508 Dmg to Shield

508 Dmg is very low Dmg to Shield, This will take ages to deshield a Battleship in 3-4 Fighter.

Batteship Weapons do Direct Damage so It wont effect them
Bomber weapons,torpedos do direct damage so it wont effect them

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Offline Antonio
08-03-2015, 11:30 AM,
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Yeah but that will make getting rid of battleships who purposly enter a snub fight just to piss people off even harder to do.

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Offline Titan*
08-03-2015, 11:32 AM,
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(08-03-2015, 11:30 AM)Antonio- Wrote: Yeah but that will make getting rid of battleships who purposly enter a snub fight just to piss people off even harder to do.

Then Run away, Stay away from the Battleships they can't move with 200 speed.
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Offline Mímir
08-03-2015, 11:32 AM,
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Okay so a cap8 5k'er full of Gallic Artefacts should be able to beat any other ship in the game then? It's worth more.

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Offline Tunicle
08-03-2015, 11:35 AM,
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First line, what about USS Lexington, USS Yorktown, HMS Repulse and HMS Prince of Wales as a few examples.

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Offline Titan*
08-03-2015, 11:36 AM,
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(08-03-2015, 11:32 AM)Mímir Wrote: Okay so a cap8 5k'er full of Gallic Artefacts should be able to beat any other ship in the game then? It's worth more.

Wut? 5k'er? Transporter? This will affect only Battleship Shields, My friend.
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Offline Connor
08-03-2015, 11:36 AM,
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Seriously restrict battleships to official factions only or SRP. Then make them stupidly OP like they should be.

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Offline Zayne Carrick
08-03-2015, 11:42 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2015, 11:42 AM by Zayne Carrick.)
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I lol'd from this thread.

The most precious resourse in Discovery are people, not cash. Therefore, it's only natural, that the one, who possesses that resourse is having advantage.

Quote:Seriously restrict battleships to official factions only or SRP. Then make them stupidly OP like they should be.
Also that and implement permadeath for them.
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Offline Titan*
08-03-2015, 11:44 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2015, 11:46 AM by Titan*.)
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(08-03-2015, 11:42 AM)Zayne Carrick Wrote: I lol'd from this thread.

The most precious resourse in Discovery are people, not cash. Therefore, it's only natural, that the one, who possesses that resourse is having advantage.

This is about Battleship Vs Fighter Balance, Did you saw a fighter with lil guns that damaging and penetrating battleship armor or shield? It happens only in this game.

I am sure most of the pro snub players don't want this balance.
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Offline Laura C.
08-03-2015, 11:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2015, 11:47 AM by Laura C..)
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(08-03-2015, 11:32 AM)Titan Wrote:
(08-03-2015, 11:30 AM)Antonio- Wrote: Yeah but that will make getting rid of battleships who purposly enter a snub fight just to piss people off even harder to do.

Then Run away, Stay away from the Battleships they can't move with 200 speed.
So snub players should keep running all the time when one capship player who want easy blues "joins" the snub brawl? Because I have seen more than enough good snub fights ruined by one stupid capship player who wanted easy blues. Even players from "his" side were often disappointed by this.

Battleships should not interfere in snub brawl in any way if you want to buff them the way you proposed. So until you make their projectiles really slow so there will be minimum chance to hit snub unless it stays stupidly still, this is just way how to create even more hate towards caps, when even several players in fighters can do nothing with one stupid cap player which finds funny to enter snub fight.

On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.
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