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Offline Dark_Predator
12-29-2015, 05:08 PM,
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Logged my RM bomber today and saw that it has now only 4 turrets (was 6) and 75 regens (why only 75 for bomber) and only 14 k armor (on FLstat, because infocard is still old!).
Can you tell me please - is it still a bomber? Cuz now it has regens and armor more like just VHF + why this "change" wasn't mentioned in Update post?

Thank you.
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Offline Skorak
12-29-2015, 05:21 PM,
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It is very small and still had all the upsides the other bombers had. So they balanced it out apparently. Let's see if that is enough.

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Offline Haste
12-29-2015, 05:21 PM,
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It's rather small:

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The ship's smaller than a large number of VHFs while having rather solid stats and bomber weaponry. Why it's not in the patch logs I don't know, but a nerf to the ship was long overdue.

- Moved the thread to a more logical location, by the way.
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Offline Skorak
12-29-2015, 05:24 PM,
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(12-29-2015, 05:21 PM)Haste Wrote: Why it's not in the patch logs I don't know

The patch notes could use a lot of improvement. That it is not wanted to have some stuff in there that are supposed to be hidden is alright but they neither represent changes well nor are really important changes listed there. We were all honestly surprised when a couple of 5k Transports blew up just like that because the Armor had been nerfed.

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Offline Dark_Predator
12-29-2015, 06:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-29-2015, 06:08 PM by Dark_Predator.)
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I got your point why it's nerfed. But still I don't understand why can't we catch all patch logs...
Skorak, I can see in logs that RM cruiser's armor is lower now (I don't care about it cuz I'm using only snubs) and I can't see important things for me. I don't think that "capital ships" changes are more important than snub changes.
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Offline Skorak
12-29-2015, 06:09 PM,
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That is probably due to the way the dev team operated. They are improving that already. Or did.

And the fact that it is not a professional team sometimes makes it hard. For example: Dev1 kept working on the bombers and transports and then leaves for RL reasons. The changes are still in the files but the other teammembers didn't realize and/or bother. Maybe they saw them but since every dev sends in his own notes the leaving dev didn't send his.

There is so many possible reasons, and afaik Tachyon did these changes and he is I believe on leave at the moment.

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Offline Dark_Predator
12-29-2015, 06:25 PM,
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Okay, thank you for explanation.
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Offline Antonio
12-29-2015, 10:34 PM,
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Glad to see it nerfed finally. Even though I'd say it will still be a top tier bomber, at least it's not as overpowered as before. Kudos for the change.

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Offline Tachyon
12-30-2015, 01:19 AM,
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Note that there are a couple of changes I made before my leave that are not in the official patchnotes (not referring to those lost in the forum rollback!).
They're mostly changes to individual bombers aswell as some minor technical stuff regarding ship movement.

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