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Systems Classification Update Mandatory
Offline Sombs
12-17-2016, 01:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-17-2016, 03:50 PM by Sombs.)
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Two facts.
1. Take the first letters of this thread's title and you get the word SCUM.
2. We need to update this.

[+]Lolberty
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[+]Bretonia
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[+]Rheinland
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[+]Kusari
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[+]Gallia
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[+]Independent Worlds
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[+]Tau-Sigma-Omega-Omicron
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[+]House Controlled Systems
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[+]Taus
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[+]Sigmas
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[+]Weskas
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[+]Omicrons
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Issues:

Sigma-15 is both Sigmas and Rheinland (Luneburg?)


Is Poole still Sovereign House Space while Dublin is just House Controlled Space?
Like, Poole is filled with hostile-ish installations and even a hostile Battleship, while Dublin has the Essex and only one hostile installation on the other end of the system.


Rishiri is still a Tau, but controlled by Kusari and Gallia? ._.


Omega-52 and Coronado is uncovered by the current System Clarifications.
Is Coronado a Tau or an independent world? Is Omega-52 not an Omega?


The Outcast ID says it has ZoI in Gallic Borderworlds. Does that mean every Gallic system that is not Sovereign House space? (FL-Stats declares Auvergne, Burgundy, Champagne, Dauphine, Languedoc, Lorraine, Lyonnais, Provence to be Gallic Borderworlds, Error's NavMap shows Dauphine and Burgundy as Gallia, though. And Orkney is declared as Tau but uses Gallic Border Soundtracks? Even worse: It's called BR08 in the data!?)
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The Zoner ID says Zoner Whales can't dock in Sovereign House Space. Does that mean it can dock within systems that are according to the System Clarification Thread no Sovereign House space but house controlled or outer house systems?
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Offline Skorak
12-17-2016, 02:00 PM,
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Coronado is in independent worlds.

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Offline Sombs
12-17-2016, 02:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-17-2016, 02:15 PM by Sombs.)
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Okay, I was blind. I'll fix it. (sun)

Edit: Fixed.




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Offline moebus
12-17-2016, 03:08 PM,
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Indeed, there is a need to update the files.

Regarding zoner whales: I don't think they can dock on IMG/GMG bases located in sovereign house space. I did not check the ID recently nor try to dock on these bases but I think the mention to IMG/GMG bases in the ID was made before the installation of the module that automatically restricts zoner whales to dock in sovereign house space systems.


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Offline Hubjump
12-17-2016, 03:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-17-2016, 03:37 PM by Hubjump.)
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As poole is i agree it is wierd,but if this stuff continues soon bretonia will just be 3 systems in the end or might just not exist Sad

its lost 3 systems,one of its systems are controlled by gallics with no place for our BAF to dock (can this change? also player wise gallia is rather low...and the new faces dont last long in their shiney new valors)
then Edinburgh is literally the gallics now with just one privateer base far from any decent JH position to leeds,can this also slightly change?
but poole,either rework the system or it makes no sense to call it sovereign space but at the same time i think bretonia has lost enough systems and is small enough being the smallest house in the game yet we only really control 4 or 5 if you include dublin...but the mollies have pushed the BMM and such out of there it seems,i can never find a miner when i want one

Also why is the whole of bretonia on the GRN ID?
This is terrible?!?
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Offline Sombs
12-17-2016, 03:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-17-2016, 04:54 PM by Sombs.)
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You're right, Moebus. The Singleplayer Zoner ID is different from the Server-side Zoner ID.
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Which gives even more questions, though. Will edit the OP in a few minutes.

Edit: Edited the OP and formulated the question according to the new facts.

According to this, I theoretically can dock a Whale everywhere but not in the following systems:
New York, Alaska, California, Colorado, Illinois, Ontario, Texas, Virginia, New London, Cambridge, Manchester, Newcastle, Poole, New Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Munich, Stuttgart, New Tokyo, Hokkaido, Honshu, Kyushu, Shikoku, Ile-de-France, Burgundy, Dauphine, Orleanais, Picardy.

So, according to that, you could dock a Zoner Whale in these systems:
All Omicrons, Omegas, Sigmas and Taus, Alberta, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Cassini, Kansas, Dublin, Leeds, Edinburgh, Bremen, Koeln, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagano, Tohoku, Chugoku, Tottori, Auvergne, Languedoc, Lorraine, Lyonnais, Champagne, Provence and all the independent worlds.

Is that really the case?

Would look like this:
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Offline Sombs
12-20-2016, 10:04 AM,
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Bump.




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Offline sindroms
12-20-2016, 10:10 AM,
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Yes, this is in our bucket list.
Needless to say some of the event systems are causing issues as they retain the original names they came with.

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Offline Cursetantine
12-20-2016, 10:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-20-2016, 10:26 AM by Cursetantine.)
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Isn't Lüneburg generally known as Sigma-15 but Rheinlanders call it Lüneburg? I thought there was a nice small RP element that way
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Offline Sombs
12-20-2016, 10:32 AM,
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Yes, inRP it is, but that's not relevant for the system clarification, as every system is only classified as one of the mentioned things.




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