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Zoners again are Fd!!
Offline Lusitano
12-31-2019, 12:24 PM,
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on 4 of April of 2019, one lead developer wrote me this, his own words "I agree with you that GC ought have a atmospheric entry point. We've talked about giving the planet an atmospheric entry point on a few occasions. It hasn't become a focus of our fairly limited production activity." and some time later .. really some time, the Corsairs by magic got one ... ok!! He also wrote this , again his own words " It is not the intention of the story team that Omega 49 simply eject all zoners. In game mechanics terms, Lanzarote is still a Zoner IFFed base, and there is no reason why zoners cannot land on the planet. " so ... brets killed zoners while invading theirs lands and looks like that zoners should bend over or get on their knees with their month open? Also wrote this "n story terms, I generally disagree that "the zoners won pygar" I mean, they fled there." Ohh great and what was done to compensate ? Nothing .. wait .. sorry ... Pygar just won, by magic, one inactive docking ring!! I say by magic because the only "thing" that i saw about it, was a small post by Aazalot and someone else with several "delays", and nothing else was made ... damn to repair Kurile docking ring tehre was even a base or something like that and trade event, but on Pygar ... puff magic!

Again and again Zoners were put away from Omega 49 actions, i spent many hours alone there with very few encounters, i gave up because ... i was alone and no one else care. At the beggining there were some actions, cool, but then ... ! Why?! Well i know that discovery is losing players ... even some top players ... wonder why?!!!! And also where are the official Zoner factions that should protect Zoner interest here? Well .. the TAZ are dead, the IRG are gone, The Velvet are now some kind of missing ... i wish all that interest of Velvet around FP11 was around Omega 49 ... too bad ... and the OSI ... well the OSI never really were zoner, but more some players that were very happy to land their ZBTs anywhere, so ... not really expecting some kind of good from they!!

Some of you can even say ... " i never saw you there .. " welll first i have a real life, second i'm there many times, even yesterday, but most of players were on sigma 21, looks like there was some kind of pob shooting! Also may say " why don't make one event?" but who i'm i do make some kind of event? Many events made by much know players become a fiasco, so why mine would be an sucess? No one cares ... no matter what they say, the Zoners are Fd because no one really cares! And it is sad to see so much hypocrisy ... and also ... i just finnished seen The man in the high castle, and the end was terrible, even worst than the final season of Game of Thrones, but .. i always thank the work of the developers .. but since they have so much work, at least they could do it in a fair way, and better story writing, there so many details that make GoT and Man high castle finales look a great work of art !!

Sorry for coming here to unburden, have a happy new year and take care all
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Offline Swallow
12-31-2019, 12:29 PM,
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Offline Typrop
12-31-2019, 12:32 PM,
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Why is your font size larger than usual?

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Offline Monsieur Baguette
12-31-2019, 12:41 PM,
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1. Zoners' crying is already a meme, you are merely contributing to it. There is a reason why in 2:

2. Zoners inRP are a loose bunch of fugitives incapable of organisation to rival Corsairs, Outcasts, whoever big, especially a professional military like BAF (it is like greenpeace or some Association of Fisherman tried to fight US Navy on conditions that the later can use lethal force). The only thing inRP zoners could do is to ally with someone more organised to fight Bretonia. A pity, but Coalition at the time was following the peaceful way.

3. Despite No. 2, zoners have BS, Cruisers (inRp this is pure magic) just for gameplay reasons, mostly to farm nommies. And despite this special treatment zoners continued to cry. No wonder hating zoners is mainstream.

What can you do in this case? IMHO, create an attractive RP of good quality that would be interesting to your inRP enemies as well, i.e. Bretonia. Atm the clashes in O49 pump the number of players to over 70, so join the bandwagon, side with the Coalition and try to rise the reputation of zoners. Otherwise, it will just be another zoner cry that most would ignore or despise.
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Offline Groshyr
12-31-2019, 12:54 PM,
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Zoners gameplay wise just freelancers with battleships. Mod won't lose a lot if zoner and zoner guard IFFs will stop to exist.
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Offline Typrop
12-31-2019, 12:56 PM,
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(12-31-2019, 12:54 PM)Groshyr Wrote: Zoners gameplay wise just freelancers with battleships. Mod won't lose a lot if zoner and zoner guard IFFs will stop to exist.

Zoners have one thing over freelancers.

They can powertrade better. Otherwise the caps are basically worthless and have little reason to exist in both concept and practice.

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Offline Sombs
12-31-2019, 12:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-31-2019, 12:59 PM by Sombs.)
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(12-31-2019, 12:41 PM)Baron Montluc Wrote: 3. Despite No. 2, zoners have BS, Cruisers (inRp this is pure magic) just for gameplay reasons, mostly to farm nommies. And despite this special treatment zoners continued to cry. No wonder hating zoners is mainstream.

Little correction: Zoners have capital ships mostly for the sake of roaming around well-defended in untamed space. These ships are focused inRP on defensive aspects, self-sustainment and logistics. They are more of research ships than warships. Has nothing to do with magic. Ingame this is just adjusted to be on par with everyhting else, which gives people wrong ideas on what these ships are.

Short:
Nephilim - Mobile Colony Ship - not meant to colonize planets but to be mobile versions of Freeports
Aquilon - Carrier, mostly for logistical and defensive purposes, basically what is used when a Whale isn't an option
Fearless - Long-range escort ships

The scale comparison of (private) companies with state military is still valid, though.




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Offline Groshyr
12-31-2019, 01:34 PM,
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(12-31-2019, 12:56 PM)Typrop Wrote:
(12-31-2019, 12:54 PM)Groshyr Wrote: Zoners gameplay wise just freelancers with battleships. Mod won't lose a lot if zoner and zoner guard IFFs will stop to exist.

Zoners have one thing over freelancers.

They can powertrade better. Otherwise the caps are basically worthless and have little reason to exist in both concept and practice.

Ptrain is better than zoner whale. Change my mind if it not
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Offline SnakThree
12-31-2019, 01:40 PM,
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Stop whining. Zoners are nothing but Freelancers with different IFF. Play them like Zoners, and not some militia for once. And stop complaining about your beloved zoners who in the past have been untouched and received more than some factions well deserving more assets.

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Offline Nika
12-31-2019, 01:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-31-2019, 01:50 PM by Nika.)
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It is done in a fair way. In a way where Zoners have no reasons to further put themselves into jeopardy and fight for Gran Canaria.
The planet was invaded by 1.8 million Bretonian marines. Along with a full fledged battlegroup.
I am uncertain about the Zoner population of Sirius but i'd believe it barely reaches that number, and in no way one would gather all these people in one place for a risky endeavor with so little chance for success. Zoners live in the most harsh part of Sirius, where you survive either with force or ingenuity.

They chose the second path, and it is only logical with how loose and scarce their population is.

For an average Zoner living somewhere in Taus, Omegas or distant Omicrons it makes no sense to fight a lost war over a forcefully seized planet that they once inhabitated. They have their own lives established elsewhere, and won't go great lengths for this.

Deal with it and deprieve these forums from your endless, pointless rants about how you are disappointed with Zoners being "mistreated". This is your subjective opinion, and yours alone.

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