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Ex-Hacker Snublines Rework
Offline aerelm
01-24-2021, 07:43 PM,
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View in 3D - 20 January
Comparison with the current Falchion

New LF Falchion New Bomber
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View in 3D - 26 January
Comparison with the current Broadsword

New Fighter Broadsword Remastered
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Bayonet is Not included in this rework. For the time being that ship will be staying as-is.

Since the new hacker line is entirely based around the visual design of Bayonet, reworking it makes little sense at this point. So it can stay in the mod as its own stand-alone thing, with maybe some lore fluff retroactively added to it to make it a "leaked prototype" of the new Hacker line which is now being reproduced in small quantities and sold on the grey market.


The Falchion model, while being an interesting design visually, has always been a problematic little odd duck balance-wise because its proportions don't really fit within the established norms of the snub class, that's why multiple attempts at rebalancing the ship through stats hasn't really worked. So, it was decided to tweak the mesh a bit to bring its general proportions more in line with the rest of its class, but then thanks to @Kuze (creator of the original Falchion) kindly giving us permission to tweak and reuse the mesh further, it was decided to use the opportunity and fix another issue with that line - The complete inconsistency in its visual presentation.

Right now the 3 different ships in that line (Bayonet, Falchion, Broadsword) are of 3 completely separate designs from 3 completely separate eras of the mod. By decoupling the Bayonet from this line, reworking the Broadsword in the visual style of the tweaked Falchion, and adding a new LF as the 3rd ship of the line (with a bit of a nod to the old Falchion), this mini-BW line will hopefully actually look like one shipline at last.

Feel free to yell at me if you're actually a fan of the current Broadsword's looks and wouldn't want to see it completely reworked, and I'll try to fit somethin relatively similar to it in some other future line that wouldn't look as out of place as this line. Little change of plans: Felt like a bit of a waste throwing an existing ship in the bin for no reason, so Frozen's Broadsword is now getting remastered to stay in alongside Kuze's Falchion line (also it turned out Frozen's old Falchion is still in the game files, so that one's gettin the remaster too because why not).


Also,
Quote:There's now a Discord server for Disco Modelers to share their on-going projects and gather feedback:

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Main updates, major discussions and polls will still be handled via forums, but if you're interested in keeping up with the more incremental updates and providing real-time feedback, feel free to join.
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Offline aerelm
02-18-2021, 11:09 AM,
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Update:

Updated the Falchion, it still needs some tweaks and cleanup, but the "general look" is close-ish to final. If anyone has any concerns, now would be a good time to voice cause doing any major changes will be a bit too inconvenient past this point.
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Offline Skorak
02-18-2021, 11:45 AM,
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I wonder if something should/could happen to the very front of the nose? It's fairly flat.

Otherwise this looks good to me and more ship variation is always a plus to everyone(but the balance team I guess).

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Offline aerelm
02-25-2021, 01:30 AM,
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Update:

Little change of plans: Felt like a bit of a waste throwing an existing ship in the bin for no reason, so Frozen's Broadsword is now getting remastered to stay in alongside Kuze's Falchion line.

(Also it turned out Frozen's old Falchion is still in the game files, so that one's gettin the remaster too because why not.)
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Offline Binski
02-25-2021, 08:21 AM,
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That new Falchion looks amazing.
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Offline Kauket
02-25-2021, 12:38 PM,
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Looks nice, but I always hated the 'boxy ass' on it. Looks so dull. Would be so much cooler with a more 'engine like' rear than a box.

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Offline aerelm
02-25-2021, 11:48 PM,
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Update:

Did a different (less in line with the original) version based on feedback. Splitting the Broadsword into a separate p3d for the time being since it's still undecided and subject to change, but feedback is welcome nevertheless.

Preview for the alt version (with comparison to the original): https://p3d.in/dLuuZ
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Offline Kauket
02-26-2021, 02:37 AM,
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Awesome. It is definitely a lot better now. My only gripe is the reminiscence of the 'boxy arse' in the shape design itself. I know it changed and is less of a horrific box, but I feel like - PERSONALLY - that it would be so much better without that part, if it was more ... fluent with the shape flow.

But anyway, literal god send.


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Offline Traxit
02-26-2021, 01:55 PM,
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Your models are cool beans - as always.

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Offline aerelm
02-26-2021, 05:16 PM,
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Update:

Minor tweaks and some cleanup on the Broadsword. Merged things back into the main p3d link, applied the tweaks to the old falchion as well.
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