Open letter to OPG Gentle

[geohxx]

Hello Gentle.

There were some problems in gamma, when your guys are gaming, for example when they called us:

OPG Muleos. "Bloody useless moronic halfwit bastards", that last word are the same if you call me "son of the bitch" (sorry to all people who must read this post for this words), Muleos: "HAF ruined the game again" or something like that, but without provocation and in open chat.

OPG Fury: "Your wife happened to me last night", (that was incredible, that shown no honor, not respect for a playmate.)

OPG Gentle: Idiots, Punks, Weak, Morons, Ass, your scum sucking little polyp, uff!!!, (you know a lot of words for insult us Gentle) last words was Hispanic, we understand the word Hispanic was told with xenophobic intention; And you use your Elder's power to say that the HAF is KoS with an incredible coldness, without than the rest of the members of the council say nothing, assuming the power of all of them. That confirms the absolute violence and racism that you feel, when you act without reflection. If your intention was not say that, tell me please.

OPG Vilkas: Idiots, Morons

OPG Karolis: Idiots... he was insulting HAF all time or acting with bad manners.

OPG Asno: Pathetically stupid, now for the HAF Idiot leader

OPG Crucifix: Stupid HAF, Idiot

OPG Poison: come on and get it bitch, (That was totally indecent, absolutely disrespectful and breaks rules, no only of the game, also in the whole discovery community)

OPG Krushak: get lost scum bags, verpisst euch (he was using another language for insulting, maybe), HAF punks

Of course, all these insults are in screenshots, but i was thinking unnecessary go to cry to the admins, because they have a lot of work.

(Now Reverend Del threatens us and he give us warning, that if we kept on sending reports of the fouls, they will send us to Bastilla, they will remove our weapons and invite us to play elsewhere, that we understand it like a threat of Ban)

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From now on. Ill prefer to talk with you, I know you live in a hostile racist sector in your country, and you know very well these acts are unnecesary, because its violence and death for brothers, childrens, olders, because the xenophoby its a bad thing, and maybe you are a victim of those skinheads.

Please Gentle, let us play this game without problems, if you want respect, you must get that with your own respect. So, lets establish diplomatic relationships or something more, we can be friends in this game, our game.

Finally, here are some of codes in HAF:

How to deal with flamming- Proceed like follows:

1. Be calm, some people like to hurt others, in FL. Use /mute syschat if you want

2. Never insult, thats the target of the one who is insulting you

3. Remenber that we are HAF, we enter dogfights with weapons, not with our mouths

4. Don?t lame, even if one or many people pawn you or lags a lot, you can allways change char or use /ping$ id, /vote kick, /vote cheat, etc...

5. You can be funny and polite without disturbs other people, its better to say in pr?vate "wow, lag:13%... hey -nick-, are you trying to broke hhc lag record? ", than to say: "lagger", "cheater", etc...

6. Take screenies if you think someone is going too far, that will help us to see what really happend and which way is the best to follow

7. At the end, if you understand what samurais said, you will be ready to manage this affairs
Samurais allways say: "Nobody can dishonour you insulting, the one who insults is dishonouring himself"
I think thas all, thank for your attention.

Thanks for your attention

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[zeinstruktor]

I've seen many insults by the OPG directed at the HAF.

They angered me very much, and I've not played my Corsair much recently because I frankly hate hearing it.

Mule insulted the HAF with: "Bloody useless moronic halfwit bastards" when they accidentally killed a CR with a mine in an Alpha raid.
We don't need crap like that here. I haven't seen any HAF ever treat the OPG with the utter lack of respect that they get in return, for doing nothing but trying to have fun on a game server.

And don't even try to say those insults are in-character. They are clearly based off an OOC hate, and should be sanctioned as such.

[Xing]

I think this is better handled in pm to admins.
but I am somewhat horrified by these, if true.

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[McNeo]

From a personal point of view, quite frankly I never spend my time in Omicron Gamma. The only time I log on Montoya is when:

1. We're raiding Bretonia.
2. We're training in Omicron 91.

The rubbish I see in system chat in Omicron Gamma really makes me want to puke a lung (thanks for that expression, Gezza). Its therefore no surprise that I wasn't present for any of the things happening in Gamma, but incidents such as these would just make me want to recommend some... correctional action to Zelot.

So, I agree with Zeinstruktor and Yue. If these accusations are true (and we'd probably like to see evidence as such), then I am pretty disgusted.

[El Nino]

Man i didn't make your list:(.

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[LA-384]

I as a member of OPG am pretty disappointed if this all is true and can be proven by screenshots. After our last "War", we decided to ignore the HAF players (as in, not paying much attention to what they say and do, unless it's directed towards one of us), since that would be the only option left to prevent similar actions from happening again. Seems like not everyone kept to their word.

On the other hand, there is also something as a "personal barrier". Some people can take a lot of this, and stay unaffected, while others are easely offended. If someone who i only know by name, calls me a moron, idiot, or something else. I'm usually unaffected, since the person in question doesn't know me at all. Now if a friend calls me moron, idiot or something else, i would first think he's just making a joke out of a silly situation.

So i'd say, if it's really coarse language, just screenshot it and file a report, simple as that. If it doesn't qualify for a sanction, then you shouldn't be the least bit affected by what is said. I've been called a lot worse, and the people called me like that, all left the server a long time ago. I don't even remember the names of those people.

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[JovialKnight]

Are these insults directed at you, the player, or your characters?

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[geohxx]

No Yue Fei.

we cant handled this anymore y PV with admins because we are tired of this actions, but we was trying get justice from admins, but they only treathing us with ban and sanctions, time is for all people can see the true in our community.

sometimes one or two proofs are enough, but we are here playing, not time for take more screenshots ( of course, i have all screenies of these insults in the top)

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[bluntpencil2001]

No Yue Fei.

we cant handled this anymore y PV with admins because we are tired of this actions, but we was trying get justice from admins, but they only treathing us with ban and sanctions, time is for all people can see the true in our community.

sometimes one or two proofs are enough, but we are here playing, not time for take more screenshots ( of course, i have all screenies of these insults in the top)

What do you expect rival pirates to say?

'Shiver me timbers, I find your encroaching upon my turf a little bit annoying just now. Would you mind shifting over, Honey Muffin?'

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[Blodo]

You HAF really don't understand that the reason admins are pounding on you is because you try to get OPG sanctioned *all the bleeding time* for pretexts as silly as you can possibly get? It's as bad if not worse as OPG treating you like trash publically in system chat. If they treat you as trash, then either try to earn their respect or attack them outright - but do it in RP, and then the admins won't interfere in the slightest.