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~~Soul Reaper~~ · 07-14-2009, 05:04 PM,

Now uhm...before Flaming at the title..just read it first:D

Since the order is in a very tight spot in minor, and if the nomads ever take over the system..it would be kinda hard to escape..so, thinking of that possibility, the order purchases a Juggernought from the Zoners(thats how it would be in it's RP...of course, when making the special RP request..its gonna be much longer)

The Juggernought would be fail-safe escape for the order if the nomads ever took over, so I think its possible to make it by the RP Terms, since the zoners and the order are allies anyway..

So i'm asking all of you if this could be possible, and put in all your thoughts..

-Soul Reaper

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Heartless · 07-14-2009, 05:09 PM,

Well, first thing that comes to mind is that problem with an Order Zoner Juggy we had a while back, and it didn't end up too well.

Don't forget, we do have Omicron 100 and the Order does have it's carriers and battleships. Those could carry the "remnants" if such an event as you described ever did happen.

I'm still confused though what you mean by "fail-safe escape"? Like, the Order hops on and leaves?

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masternerdguy · 07-14-2009, 05:09 PM,

its not hard to escape, and they can fly those i believe.

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~~Soul Reaper~~ · (This post was last modified: 07-14-2009, 05:23 PM by Soul Reaper.)

Well yes, the order does have battleships, but a zoner juggernought, is actually a mobile freeport, where they can be self sustainable, but battleship's resoucres will be depleted some time..And that way, if they ever have to escape, they wont have to fully rely on some other faction.

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Heartless · 07-14-2009, 05:26 PM,

That's true.

The idea in itself is... good. I guess it comes down to numbers then? How many people the Order has, and how many a Zoner Juggernaut can sustain. If such a scenario did happen (which it won't) you'd have this and whatever other ships the Order has left which will add up to dozens, maybe hundreds. It's like you're preparing for a doomsday event which won't ever come lol.
What I feel a bit... "off" about, is the word "purchase". The Order would "purchase" a Zoner Juggernaut? I don't think you can simply buy these things but eh', what else is there?

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~~Soul Reaper~~ · 07-14-2009, 05:31 PM,

Purchase..erm..thats the only word i could find for it, and yes, this ship will be for a doomsday(of course it'll nvr happen) but in RP, it has a chance of happening. And the order is smart enough to get ready for anything like that, there would be a few of them mabye, but they'll be scattered around hiding from the eyes of anyone, mine will be the active one, since the order now has a few, 1 was chosen to be active, deep space research and anything like that, its self-sustainable so it was the best choice...

-Soul Reaper

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ophidian · 07-14-2009, 05:43 PM,

It has a special RP request that "intersects" in a "not fitting" way with what Order faction plans at least. I cannot talk much about indie will (even though RP wise and vanilla followed, it is said to be "follow the reape.. .erm.. faction leader") but it does not fit to our current "extraction if necessary" plan as a faction.

Petersen · 07-14-2009, 05:47 PM,

the juggernaut is a ship of myth and legend, the holy grail for zoners so to say, i dont think we would go and give one to the order just so easy. although the order and the zoners are very tight if we take the research station that order and zoners share to develope their high tech together.
i think before minor falls the zoners would send one of their juggernauts guarding fp 11 to assist the order in defending and/or evacuating toledo. you also have to think about the work that goes into building a juggernaut, the zoners only have one shipyard able to produce large vessels like whale, fearless, corvo, conference and the juggy. with all the threats and war rising up all around the zoners all over sirius i guess our own shipyard is working pretty much at max capacity to satisfy our own shipneeds. but i guess you should talk some people who have more to say about zoner rp, i suggest to talk to mal, he is the guy to consult if you want to do something like this. he can help you if it might be possible to do this and prepar the proper rp you need regarding the council of zoners who would need to give the yay to this kind of technology transfer.

Heartless · 07-14-2009, 05:51 PM,

' Wrote:but i guess you should talk some people who have more to say about zoner rp, i suggest to talk to mal, he is the guy to consult if you want to do something like this. he can help you if it might be possible to do this and prepar the proper rp you need regarding the council of zoners who would need to give the yay to this kind of technology transfer.

And Jinx, they both seem to have a great Zoner understanding. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the Order managed to pull out some sort of secret weapon or have their own form of... "colony ship" if such a scenario every did happen.

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~~Soul Reaper~~ · 07-14-2009, 05:54 PM,

The thing is that if this idea is actually accepted, RPwise, the order will have already had some juggernoughts before ''the player one'' was made, as i said, the other ones i lying idle, and hiding, no one except the order high command knows their locations, and since the order and the zoners are so tight, the ship of ''myth and legends'' is known as ''a real live mobile freeport''..so, it could work that way i guess, i'll get hold of Mal if he has the time to help...

-Soul Reaper

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