Jinx! A request

[Tenacity]

Since your inbox(es) always seem to be full, I had to post this as a new topic.

You've been doing a lot of re-modelling for some of the past models you've made here lately, and I'd like to request a remodel of the Order recon destroyer.

The bulk of the current model is fine, but the bridge section literally looks like a trashcan slapped onto the top. It's too big, and doesnt fit with the rest of the ship. That round section looks fine on the much larger carrier and battleship models... but on the destroyer it just stands out too much.

I would like to suggest that a new model be made that crosses the design schemes of the Order Gunboat with the current order recon destroyer, since the Order gunboat doesnt follow any of the design themes of other order craft it'd be nice to have something else in the faction that it can relate to. Using a bridge design and some body design influences of the gunboat on the destroyer model, while keeping the general hatchet-like shape that it inherits from the Osiris, would look far better than the current model IMO.

So... please? =)

EDIT:

Also, after a conversation with someone else over xfire... it'd be nice to have a little more zoner design influence in the ship, to further stress the exchange of technology and information that the zoner-order alliance is based on. Taking a zoner design and turning it into an order ship, as was done with the gunboat, was a great step towards that, and I really do like how the gunboat looks - it keeps an order-ish feel, while being new and different.

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[Sprolf]

As an avid pilot of a Resheph until just recently, I'd just like to add my cheeky two cents here.

I've noted that the windows are rather odd protrusions that make little sense. For example, there's window blocks off of the engine armour paneling. That doesn't make any sense if you think about it. The windows also stick out rather far for their height, giving them an unrealistic appearance and making it seem like they're an attempt to add some sort of bulk to the model. They most likely are, but it gives the model a rather... skeletal, wimpy, and insubstantial feel while bulking it out, if that makes any sense. Perhaps that is what it was originally designed to be like... but there is definitely good room for revision and some beefing up of the ship. Quite a bit of room, truth be told.

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[Tenacity]

As another thought, perhaps adding some zoner design traits like the 'fingers' that go out across the top of the juggernaut and transport would give it a better look. Of course, that may not work too well with the hatchet design of the body...

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[ruihu908]

Mei, I'll listen to u guys then:)

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[Blackvertigo1]

Hmm, just to come into a realistic standpoint. That solo turret mount right near the engine exhaust... *bites finger nails* yeah...

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[Birdtalon]

Mei, I'll listen to u guys then:)

I fail to find this post to be contributing in any way to the discussion.

The recon cruiser could do with a remodel, I agree.

I say, do away with the useless bits sticking out of it and replace them with radar dishes or somthing of the kind to symbolise Scanners.

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[Calego]

As far as I can tell the whole point behind the recon cruiser is stealthy reconnaissance... right? its not meant to be a fighting ship, just a scout. a very heavy duty scout and one that can hold its own until backup arrives but a scout nonetheless. As such maybe it should have a more stealthy appearance. Like the hathor gunboat but not quite. I like the more satelite dishes idea but I think it should also be a bit more smooth to symbolize stealth.
Also it could to without a bunch of fishing boat like antenna arrays IMO... maybe replace those with dishes.

Something like the Zoner Destroyer, I like the idea of more tech exchange too... The smooth sides of it could be portrayed as scanner escaping... and then the thin strip in the middle with the bridge and such could have all sorts of scanner dishes sticking out of it... It could be a shorter thinner and overall smaller version of the destroyer with a more streamlined model like the gunboat.

The newer shape would be easier to mix up with an asteroid or other rock floating around than the current model adding to the overall stealthy feel. The more identifiable armor plating would also double as an extra radiation proofing, so that it could scout out more inhospitable systems.

Overall more hathor like sounds good, but more smooth and stealthy sounds more like a recon cruiser to me, something similar to the zoner destroyer. Now how to fit that in with the rest of the Order ship line may be a challenge but if you RP it as another tech exchange with the Zoners it should be fine.

my three cents... I started writing whatever came to my mind so bear with me if I repeated myself three times.

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[Jinx]

what the recon cruiser HAS right now:

- it is 100% balanced to perform what its meant to do
- it has a perfect hitbox - a hitbox that is much better than one that just approximately fits or offers a one-size-fits-all approach.
- its fairly well detailed in both skinning and modelling

what it lacks:

- it doesn t look stealthy, but then - its hard to stealth a capital warship anyway. - its not meant to be stealthy, its meant to get away when its in trouble ( 4 CMs - even if they are mostly for show - like many other things in disco )
- it is meant to be as powerful as the spyglass in a MUCH smaller body. - this characteristic is only roleplayed though
- the model itself could easily be upgraded and revised to something nicer indeed. - but then, the work involved to make it as good as its now ( techniacally ) is tremendous.

result:

its not on the to-do list cause the current model works just too well. - especially the hitbox is perfect. furthermore, its really meant to be a RP ship. - the order is meant to have somethine like ... 1 or 2 of them for very important recon duties.

when the order needs an average cruiser, they are always free to speak to the zoners for a fearless or something of that sort.

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[Lunaphase]

Jinx, the recon cruiser is indeed fitting of its role, but realistically if there are only supposed to be two... how the living h3// are we supposed to stay in RP with bhg capitals spawning in our home system!? we have ... the hathor (out turned by the cruiser) the cruiser (not so bad, but some turrets are just flat out useless) and the geb (cruiser range on a bs hull. um... whos idea was that?!) currently the osirus and the recon cruiser are really the only ships worth fighting with, because the carrier is a HUGE target and the hathor is slower than the cruiser with less firepower sheilding and armor. its a snac magnet.

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[ErikssonJeny]

I agree; if BHG can have 100+caps and we can only have 10-20 your not giving us anything to work with honestly...

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