mastodon revised

[Jinx]

as the title says - its just a suggestion...

the mastodon was a bit of a hushed job. - but its not a bad ship. - this model is a slightly more detailed and more "supertransport" looking ship. - but i d leave it to the feedback to decide if its worth a replace or not.

it is a very asymetric design - even more than the current mastodon - the basic shapes are still the same though - with the "Y" shaped containers. - i have replaced the cruiser type engines with a larger one there.

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[Janus]

I like them both. However, in my view, what Liberty really needs is an intermediate transport rather than a Mastodon replacement.

[Violette]

Better, by far.


But all the houses should have a 4200 cargo 'tank'.
Like the Shire and Akegata...


I like those.

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[Unseelie]

Beyond a 4200 cargo tank, I think there should be a 3600-3800 cargo midrange, and a 4700 cargo lighter tank for each house.

Also...I love the current mastodon. If it had guns, I'd fly it. Without guns, I really can't see it being great.
Perhaps make this one the 5k supertrans, and make the current mastodon a 4200 tank?

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[Lucend]

As a pilot of a Mastodon, I must say that the reason why people don't fly them is because of the guns issue. You could either get a Mastodon or an Adv. Train with the same cargo capacity and still be able to defend yourself. I personally think the current Mastodon isn't perfect, but I do like it's general design. I have often thought that if you just took that cruiser engine off and slapped a Lib Dread engine + graphic, I think that would be awesome.

Concerning this newer one, I like it very much, and wouldn't mind have this one as the Mastodon and downgrade the current model to a midranged transport. (As Uselie said) My only concern is at the front, I'm wondering what purpose those rails shooting out of it serve?

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[Janus]

I'm with Unselie, but for that's a lot of modelling, particularly for Liberty.

Regards the Mastadon having a cargo shrink, it'd need a fairly hefty model shrink too if that happened. I'd imagine it'd also be easier to put multiple hardpoints on the new model than to rehardpoint an old one.

Edit: I imagine the rails in the new model are for loading/unloading containers.

Size comparison below.

[Dusty Lens]

I like the current Mastadon a great deal. The one gun is perfect for knocking out tradelanes behind you, as you'll not be defending yourself very well with any of the 5ks.

While i find this model appealing I believe it would be better served as falling into the "C-Trans" class of ship, an additional vessel as opposed to a replacement of a model which is rather nice.

The only thing, I dare say, the Mastadon needs is a fix to cake care of some of the model gaps.

[Jihadjoe]

I have to agree with dusty here. I'd suggest a mid ranged transport being dropped in, as well as an equivalent to the shire/c-trans.

That ship, if scaled to be roughly the same size as the mastodon, would make a very nice c-trans type ship, however a small Borderworlds transport type ship would be rather nice as well.

Infact, on that note, a generic lawful version of the pirate train would be a rather nice addition to the mod.

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[Jinx]

if you want a lawful version of the pirate train, i could easily just skin this one here ...

but i guess i can also just downscale the mastodon

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[Elsdragon]

Actually, Thats a NIce model, Skin It Pl0x?

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