Hicharo Suzuki, my freelancer, has had a situation develop around him that could turn into an interesting RP experience for the community.
What I did was trade H-Fuel from Sigma 13, Naha to Manheim Station in Frankfurt. Now, with contract between GMG and Kishiro, only Kishiro can trade H-Fuel to Rheinland, so only Kishiro could do this run. It can be argued that I had a contract with Kishiro over that amount of fuel, but lets leave it up to lawyers. Im being accused of theft here. Trade dispute if you will.
Here are some 'video' material to explain. It will be evidence, so to speak as I was never seen with the cargo itself.
What could happen: an RP event either on forums or in game, your traditional court procedure Why would it be interesting?: usually lawsuits are someone-killed-someone cases, this is an economical crime, hence its more fresh and interesting
How would we do it and why should we listen to you?
As I gave myself away and was spotted in Rheinland the court would be under Rheinland laws. A Kusarian at court in Rheinland. That creates an international incident!
The lawsuit would be filed by Kishiro, as appearantly it's their contract that I may or may have not violated. (could also be GMG, maybe even Rheinland if its considered contraband). Its Kishiro against Kusari citizen with Rheinland rules and play style;)
Kusari would have little choice but to do everything they can to try to pull me out. (in ideal situation a ksp inspector could be the lawyer, although any person or none will do too). I am a citizen after all and Kusari is protective of its people. So, Kusari could try to bend the system, try to deal with Rheinland (who is somewhat forced to have this case go through).
Well my record as patriot is not impressive, all Hachiro has in his record are a few jobs for Ageira Technologies, but Kusari would still put average efforts into 'getting me out', I think.
Samura would pressure Kusari government to help me out to retain its reputation (or farmers alliance as lawful organisation). There is alternative route, though. Samura would launch Hogosha agents, who would still try to get me out of Rheinlands prisons (by political means or bribery), but after they do, deal with me on their own in the very worst manner there is. Maybe make me work for Farmers Alliance, make me their thug. Fun thing is: I would never know if Kusari is trying to get me out of good will or if they're going to slap me even harder after they do! :lol:
That's not all! We could also add another thing to the case. Why didn't border station stop me before I could sell my cargo? Were the guards not watchful enough? Maybe they should be sued?
How far Im willing to go?: Pretty far. I would appreciate if its not a death penalty.:DOther than that...credits fine (I pay corporations), confiscation of ship (would change to civ shuttle) even imprisonment, forces labour (shipped to Miura), ending up in other factions such as previously mentioned AFA, Hogosha, maybe all of these things together. After all, that is usually the case in modern day courts.
Let us not forget that I may become free if the court sees my reason or even have evil corporations pay me compensation (again it should be like 10,000 credits or so, I don't mind if its only on paper too). That is very possible because it is arguable if Hicharo is guilty or innocent. Also, if he is found innocent (lets admit trading H-Fuel is not as bad as killing someone or smuggling) then who is to blame? Maybe Kishiro officer on Naha is corrupt and he sold Hachiro a contract, maybe a Junker set him up, maybe GMG officer illegally allowed Hicharo to access the supplies and tricked him into thinking that it's legitimate and so on. All these roles could be roleplayed as well.
And of course, in case of imprisonment some pirates can attack the prison ship/convoy. That would gain them an ally for sure.
The most important aspect remains...do YOU want to give it a go? Post, give ideas, take up roles, give suggestions.
Hi, I'm the RepEx you interacted with briefly ingame. ooRP, I have no proof besides you saying that you had just brought in HFuel. InRP, the evidence is aforementioned dock workers, inventory logs, both loading and unloading, and scan logs as you passed Fulda Border Station.
Now, you have a bit of a problem with your premise. It would be GMG and Republican bringing the charges against you, as it's their fuel you 'stole'. Kishiro doesn't distribute to Rheinland anymore. I'll forward this thread to the leaders of the GMG and we'll hammer something out.
I don't think Kishiro would file an lawsuit without the evidence being presented to them. If you are really willing to confess that you had hfuel - sweet, but just to file a lawsuit for sake of lawsuit..
Either way, plan out how will some good evidence reach Kishiro, and we'll gladly play along
' Wrote:I don't think Kishiro would file an lawsuit without the evidence being presented to them. If you are really willing to confess that you had hfuel - sweet, but just to file a lawsuit for sake of lawsuit..
Either way, plan out how will some good evidence reach Kishiro, and we'll gladly play along
Well you know how stations asked their pilots about their cargo and their destination? That's what happened. I admitted doing it to Republican pilot (in RP it would probably be operator on Mainz Storage Facility with Rep. pilot as a witness of my words) as seen in pictures. Hachiro is convinced that he did nothing wrong and as a true Kusarian he will never go back his word. Someone sold him H-Fuel on Naha and he strongly believes he is a victim of circumstances, innocent, just and true. But let's bee honest. Courts never see reason or use common sense as they're only judgment can be laws. The evidence is admission and it's more than enough to file a lawsuit, but winning the case is something one should still fight for.
There is more to it, of course. I liked your suggestion, of course the border station would have records of me passing through.
I still think it should be Kishiro. The deal between GMG and Rheinland is all fair and square, but GMG hasn't started doing it's part yet, they did say they would make a few commercial scouting missions, fly around, land on bases, talk to people, roleplay making connections and contracts with bases. In fact (according to GMG trade supervisor) indies are allowed to trade H-Fuel, as (now) are Republican, GMG and who knows what else, because that's only as far as game mechanics can go, limiting certain commodities to certain factions would be mean.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that Kishiro-GMG contract is the most generic, strongest RP-wise and I'd like them to be on the other side of the fence. Unless, of course you do not want to, that's okay.
There are more charges here, though.
1. Commercial crime (theft of H-Fuel)
2. Illegal crossing of border, contraband charges if you will.
I would love to hear from the Kusari government (KSP, Samura, KNF) because that is where the situation actually gets interesting. International incident sounds very interesting to me. Kusari could try to influence Rheinland court by political or economical means (and of course Hogosha with their bribery). How far they will go is up to them. They might try to get Hicharo back passively: "-please? -no. -aww, okay" or use more agressive approach. My character would only blackmail Samura (well, AFA) if the court was going badly and many years of Rheinland prison with Bubba in one cell would wait in front of him, though. Only risk everything if everything is at stake.
One of the possible ends that I can see is that Kusari would enter into negotiations with Rheinland. Their request could be: "Okay, he will serve whatever time you want him to, but in one of Kusari prisons" or: "give him to us, it will make us happy, we will deal with him in our courts" And Kusari is land of magic, where anything could happen. Would Kusari be soft to him or as harsh as possible to show Rheinland they mean business? Through means like that Kusari could try to get a better deal for them, avoid friction between nations. Rheinland is unlikely to accuse Hicharo of spying...or would they?
Of course we also need a Rheinland judge . Ideally a RFP, but also RM, any person who roleplays a Rheinlander with power too.
This would consist of: 1. Kusari-Rheinland negotiatons. With Kusari trying to get the best deal out of it. 2. Court. (possibly taking place in Rheinland unless negotiations state otherwise) 3. Story progression. Hicharo may end up working for a faction, because he is either grateful to them, forced to do so or was captured. I do see Hogosha getting their agents this way. Get a guy out of prison, make them look like do-gooders and turn him into one of their brainwashed (or not) agents. Samura could also make Hicharo their pawn, make him work as thug for Farmer's Alliance. And if Kusari does not do as good, Hicharo ends up in Rheinland, in a cell with Bubba, I can see Bundschuh bribing some officials to get him out of there sooner so that he could serve the faction.
RM/RFP security would also likely to be needed if we go through with this, because a good court always has some cool looking guards about.
Just to comment from the Samura side, I do not see how Samura would be brought into this.
I doubt the blackmail approach would work as all you really have evidence of there is what looks like a Farmer accepting a bribe from an Aeira vessel.
In fact if I was to guess what position Samura would take on this it would be to not interfere with the Rheinland justice system.
We respect Rheinland and it's corporations and hold our relationship with them in high regard.
Very nice idea by the way, I just don't see Samura having anything to do with it, well accept to use the scandal for our own publicity.
' Wrote:Just to comment from the Samura side, I do not see how Samura would be brought into this.
I doubt the blackmail approach would work as all you really have evidence of there is what looks like a Farmer accepting a bribe from an Aeira vessel.
In fact if I was to guess what position Samura would take on this it would be to not interfere with the Rheinland justice system.
We respect Rheinland and it's corporations and hold our relationship with them in high regard.
Very nice idea by the way, I just don't see Samura having anything to do with it, well accept to use the scandal for our own publicity.
You are right, blackmail idea won't really work, because no one really knows about connection between Samura and Farmers Alliance. But perhaps then Farmers Alliance could do something about it? Although they would probably just deny (and even if they wouldn't, what help of Farmers are anyway? they have no political influence) and with Samura's government in charge they would probably get some minor official in jail to show that they are working and be done with it. (much like what Hogosha does to get rid off the heat)
In no way I was trying to actually show some evidence of Farmers Alliance activities. They would never surface, that would hurt Farmer's RP.
When I thought about Kishiro filing a lawsuit I immediately thought that Samura would help just to make life for Kishiro harder, but you're right, they don't have any interest in a mere civilian. Maybe they would if I worked for them, but it's not the case.
Although what I meant was that some of the Samura guys could roleplay diplomatic representatives who would go into talks with Rheinland if KSP or KNF will not take up on governments role. Samura isn't really needed here, but some sort of Kusari presence is. And if KSP will not be able to roleplay the government, then some of the Samura guys could. Different character, of course.
' Wrote:You are right, blackmail idea won't really work, because no one really knows about connection between Samura and Farmers Alliance. But perhaps then Farmers Alliance could do something about it? Although they would probably just deny (and even if they wouldn't, what help of Farmers are anyway? they have no political influence) and with Samura's government in charge they would probably get some minor official in jail to show that they are working and be done with it. (much like what Hogosha does to get rid off the heat)
In no way I was trying to actually show some evidence of Farmers Alliance activities. They would never surface, that would hurt Farmer's RP.
When I thought about Kishiro filing a lawsuit I immediately thought that Samura would help just to make life for Kishiro harder, but you're right, they don't have any interest in a mere civilian. Maybe they would if I worked for them, but it's not the case.
Although what I meant was that some of the Samura guys could roleplay diplomatic representatives who would go into talks with Rheinland if KSP or KNF will not take up on governments role. Samura isn't really needed here, but some sort of Kusari presence is. And if KSP will not be able to roleplay the government, then some of the Samura guys could. Different character, of course.
The Farmers have a great deal of political influence, as they are a political party in Kusari, but I think given the situation, they are more likely to hire the Hogosha to have you quietly killed in jail then come to your aid.
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