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Offline HellRaiser
08-06-2007, 07:48 AM,
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I'm not complaining in any way, but just wondering....
I came here from another "big" server not too long ago, and Im just wondering...If this server is that balanced as u guys say it is, why missiles do so little damage here, even torps dont do the damage they should have.
On the other servers, missiles do alot of damage, so r the torps. It made players learn to get skilled and not to get killed. Each ship had at least 2-3 torp slots and up to 8 guns on each VHF.
The one thing I find here, is that anybody can make a buncha of money and buy themselves Cruisers, BS's etc.
...and that dont really seem that balanced to me...I mean even if ur a great VHF fighter pilot, u dont have any chances fighting ships that are way bigger than u.
Again, Imnot complaining, but just wondering why missiles and torps (wich could help smaller ships have a better chance of survival against big ships) have no value here at all????
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Offline Fellow Hoodlum
08-06-2007, 09:36 AM,
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Better think this through again ... There are three torp mounted weapons that deal tremendous damage to
both capital ships and fighters. The nova cannon, the inferno, and the mini razor. There is also one fighter
that carries eight guns ...
Single fighters should have little chance fighting larger ships on their own. Teamwork is the key.
Again, this is DISCOVERY, not another server. This is a vanilla enhancement, not an 'uber ship own all'
conversion. The balance here comes from not having ships and weapons like that in the mod.

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Offline Othman
08-06-2007, 12:30 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2007, 12:31 PM by Othman.)
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''Discovery'' means balance and you wont see here a single fighter taking out a squadron of capital ships with having uber advanced weapon systems. Thats why the ROLE play here is unmatched in its class.

As Fellow has stated everything in brief, key element to success lies within the ability to compose an advanced understanding of teamplay. If easy victory is what you seek, then Disco isnt the place you are looking for.

Even a battleship may have no chance against a pair of truly skilled bombers in this mod.

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Offline HellRaiser
08-06-2007, 03:40 PM,
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Again, what I am askin is why missiles have no realistic damage? and not why VHF cant take out a BS
for example. having a missile VHF wont do any good. Not because u can carry only 70 rockets of each type, but missiles just dont seem to do the damage theyr suppost to do thats all........
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Offline ghostcat
08-06-2007, 03:53 PM,
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' Wrote:Again, what I am askin is why missiles have no realistic damage? and not why VHF cant take out a BS
for example. having a missile VHF wont do any good. Not because u can carry only 70 rockets of each type, but missiles just dont seem to do the damage theyr suppost to do thats all........

Actually Missile boats work fairly well here, you just need to have a good sense of when to launch the things. If someone doesn't know the secret to taking them out, a missile boat can take down several fighters in quick succession. Although the damage [i]is[i] reduced on the new ships that don't have wire-frames because the ship only has one component.

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Offline Eloim
08-06-2007, 03:55 PM,
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realistic?

do you really think only one guy will run a GB, destroyer, and so on without any kind of autosoftware for turrets and so on?.

if the game was realistic, when you attack alone a GB and so on you will be blown in pieces in secs, more or less, but this game was not designed for cap ships, was designed for fighter and we only can try our best.

team work thats the key.

and shields recharge and we have reps..thats why its so hard sometimes.

and related to figthers, most of pvps in most servers is without reps, and frontal attacks (mostly irreal too), if you look fighter combat since WW1 ppl dont do frontal attacks, if they can avoid that...

so stop mouring about fighters vs cap ships...
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Offline ghostcat
08-06-2007, 04:01 PM,
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I'm guessing on your old mod, you flew a VHF with a missile loadout that destroyed everything right? The thing about Discovery, every ship can be taken out by another ship with the right loadout and good piloting.

For example, the VHFs that everyone loves, can be taken out by LFs flown well.

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Offline Eppy
08-06-2007, 04:24 PM,
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That's what I'd suspect... And nobody's used Missile Frigates for a while now, or at least, I haven't seen one in a few months.

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Offline ghostcat
08-06-2007, 04:27 PM,
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' Wrote:That's what I'd suspect... And nobody's used Missile Frigates for a while now, or at least, I haven't seen one in a few months.

Yeah, ever since they weakened the capship missiles, it hasn't been worth it. I even reduced the missile turrets on my destroyer to two. :unsure:

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........Or close the wall up with our English dead...........................Then imitate the action of the tiger;.................
........In peace there's nothing so becomes a man........................Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,.........
........As modest stillness and humility:........................................Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage!....
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