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the Kusari battleship, MK2
Offline Lunaphase
05-31-2010, 10:53 PM,
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Right, lets try this again, shall we? no offtopic this time.


To adress. the Kusari battleship has about 400 more bots/bats than any other heavy battleship.
It has the width of the Osirus, the thinnest battleship in the game.
It is a heavy battleship, with a plant to match.
Heavy armor.
Its strafe, is also higher than any other battleship in the heavy catagory.

The issue: Its current manuvering is far in exess of a ship if its size should be capable.

Its other heavy class types include the valor, the rheinland battleship, and the outcast dreadnought.

All of these other ones have low strafe, with the valor and rheinland battleship having terrible strafe both vertically and horizontally. The kusari battleship has 1/2 the width of the others, (excluding the OC dread wich is an import anyway) and has manuverabity and armor more than them, as well as having more regeneration ability.

It is therefore, suggested to reduce either its armor and bot/bat to line up with the other ships of its class, or to give it strafe in line with the other ships of its class, or both.


To make a point, this was tested during battleship v battleship combat in the GRN/KNF events, and the kusari battleship proved remarkably more speed in its strafe than a ship almost 3x as wide, and just as tall, and longer. , yet has more armor, bats/bots/strafe, than anything of its class.


Note, Offtopic shall be deleted via moderator.

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Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd
05-31-2010, 10:55 PM,
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Could someoen that can give the actual stats post ?

Info such as KuBS strafe speeds, as well as it's hitbox size in comparison to other heavy BSs would be nice for comparison.
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Offline gafwmn
05-31-2010, 11:11 PM,
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Aye,the numbers would tell the true tale.

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Offline Prysin
05-31-2010, 11:13 PM,
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Legate is also a heavy BS and its damn good at strafing if im not misstaken..
i think the legate has about 50 or 60m/s strafe (sideways)...
correct me if im wrong, but OC dread is about 25-30m/s side strafe
also add that the other heavy bs's would include Jinkushu and Marduk (nomad BS)

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Offline Curios
05-31-2010, 11:31 PM,
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http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/530/30521342.jpg

Excuse me?

also.

Ossie

Guns/Turrets 0 / 12
Hull strength 700,000
Nanobots/Batteries 1500/1500
Power output 7,000,000 u
Power recharge 220,000 u/s

Kubs

Guns/Turrets 0 / 18
Hull strength 1,280,000
Nanobots/Batteries 2000/2000
Power output 9,000,000 u
Power recharge 300,000 u/s

bretobs

Guns/Turrets 0 / 14
Hull strength 800,000
Nanobots/Batteries 1600/1600
Power output 8,000,000 u
Power recharge 260,000 u/s

legate

Guns/Turrets 0 / 16
Hull strength 1,000,000
Nanobots/Batteries 1700/1700
Power output 9,000,000 u
Power recharge 300,000 u/s

rmbs

Guns/Turrets 0 / 18
Hull strength 1,400,000
Nanobots/Batteries 2000/2000
Power output 9,000,000 u
Power recharge 300,000 u/s

Well, if you can see, Kusari BS isn't heavier heavy BS, and his ability to evade is at least discussable.

I failed to see a problem.

Btw, Valor is heavier, but have 300 less bots. So, bb amount = Legate, But Armor > then legate. And also you should take a look at gallic BS guns that have damage of cerberus (~12-13k per shot)

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Offline Markus_Janus
05-31-2010, 11:45 PM,
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So far without the strafe stats I am not seeing any major problem.
Going to need those to make any further complaints, can not just guess the strafe speeds.

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Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd
05-31-2010, 11:51 PM,
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' Wrote:Legate is also a heavy BS and its damn good at strafing if im not misstaken..
i think the legate has about 50 or 60m/s strafe (sideways)...
correct me if im wrong, but OC dread is about 25-30m/s side strafe
also add that the other heavy bs's would include Jinkushu and Marduk (nomad BS)


Marduk and gallic BS dont count, as they are purposly over powerd.

As for the Juggy.... it's strafe is ratehr slow, cant remember exact number tho.
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Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever
06-01-2010, 12:36 AM,
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No.

Its tall, Vertical strafe sucks.

Its skinny.

Side strafe is better.

What about that do you people not get?

KUSARI BS

Mass: 25000
Steering: 4300000000 4300000000 4300000000
Angular: 25000000000 25000000000 25000000000
Rotation: 950000000 950000000 950000000
Nudge-Force: 3000000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 1000000/2

RHIENLAND BS

Mass: 25000
Steering: 4500000000 4500000000 4500000000
Angular: 25000000000 25000000000 25000000000
Rotation: 900000000 900000000 900000000
Nudge-Force: 3000000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 1000000/2

OSIRIS

Mass: 15000
Steering: 4000000000 6500000000 500000000
Angular: 25000000000 25000000000 2500000000
Rotation: 1000000000 2000000000 200000000
Nudge-Force: 3000000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 1000000/2

As you can see, In steering, it is in between the heaviest BS in the mod, and the lightest.
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Offline Pinko
06-01-2010, 12:57 AM,
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You're not supposed to face a Kusarian BS directly, same goes to all Kusarian ships, when jousted, they usually take out any non-kusarian ships.

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.
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Offline Markus_Janus
06-01-2010, 01:00 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2010, 01:06 AM by Markus_Janus.)
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Here are some more comparisons for everybody.

"Aquilon" Class Zoner Carrier

Mass: 15000
Steering: 6000000000 4000000000 5000000000
Angular: 25000000000 25000000000 25000000000
Rotation: 2000000000 1000000000 1000000000
Nudge-Force: 3000000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 1000000/2


Council "Valor" Class Battleship

Mass: 20000
Steering: 4400000000 4400000000 4400000000
Angular: 25000000000 25000000000 25000000000
Rotation: 1500000000 1500000000 1500000000
Nudge-Force: 3000000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 1000000/2

"Sarissa" Class Outcast Battleship

Mass: 20000
Steering: 4800000000 4800000000 4800000000
Angular: 25000000000 25000000000 25000000000
Rotation: 1000000000 1000000000 1000000000
Nudge-Force: 3000000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 1000000/2

Zoner "Jinkusu" Class Juggernaut

Mass: 25000
Steering: 4200000000 3600000000 4200000000
Angular: 25000000000 25000000000 25000000000
Rotation: 900000000 900000000 900000000
Nudge-Force: 3000000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 1000000/2

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