Yeah, I'm gonna vent all over the place, and might use some colorful language in the process, so tune out if you're not in the mood to listen to me rant.
In the last week:
One guy wanted to join TAZ. Planned to buy a Zoner Juggy.. Hmm.. sorry. the TAZ already has one Juggy, and I don't even own it. I fly a Fearless;
Another guy chatted me up.. had already bought his Zoner Juggy. He had just come to the realization that as a fully ID'd and tagged Zoner, there wasn't a helluva lot he could actually "do" with it. A Bil or so down the toilet.
A sweet young thing.. foreigner, sort of befriended some of the TAZ.. we showed her routes, let her tag along, watched as she got bigger trading ships. We encouraged her to register on the Forums, but I don't think she ever did, or couldn't be bothered. She started as a Merc/BH.. decided to be a Zoner. Hey, cool, Jeanette. Next time I see her, she's in a Zoner Destroyer. Dunno what she was gonna do with hers, either.
Tonight was the capper.. running cargo through Delta, and a lad with X's at both ends of his name whizzed past me. (Guess we know what his RP is gonna be about, eh?..) And guess what he was flyin'? You guessed it! Zoner Destroyer.
Now, I was tickled plumb to death when I learned that there was an actual Zoner ship out there other than that blasted Juggy I could own, and roleplay as the TAZ flagship, and call my own. Well, that turned out to be complete and utter bollocks. And why? Because any birdbrain with the cash in hand can waltz onto any base, regardless of his IFF, ID, or affilliation, and buy whatever he/she damn well pleases.
This mod, and its creator, and the Admins and Moderators, are all so high and mighty about this being a roleplay server, first and foremost; but I bet every one of you who have been around longer than a month can relate similar encounters. I'm fed up with it.
The answer is pure and simple: Put the damned cap ships in the Guard Systems they belong to! Make these people do the work if they want to fly a capper. And force em to earn the rep to buy it! At least for the length of time it takes to get that that rep, they'll learn what roleplay means, fer Goddess' sake!
And, while you're at it, move all of those nice but little-used freighters, light fighters, "Homeworld"/"Zoner" ships where they belong, too. We bemoan the lack of variety and individuality, yet we put nice, small, inexpensive ships at the butt end of the Sector, like Bornholm or the Battleship Myoko. What in bloody Thud is the sense in that?
There needs to be a total revamp of ship purchase locations, with origin, Faction (npc), and all other factors in mind. Can I Gaian go to a Gaian base to purchase an Eagle? Hell, no!
But most of all, get the stupid capships off the general market and into Guard systems; or calling this Server and Mod "roleplay-oriented" is a complete and total farce.
Have to agree with Mal.
My favourite solution for Battleships is still an Admin approval, but that leaves all other capships alone.
Yes move them to the guard systems and make sure they are only available, when friendly or fully green with guards.
For all other custom ships we should work out, wich vessel belongs to which faction and where they have to be sold, because me and I guess all others have lost the overview. You could help with, Mal.
Also for all other players. It is more important to sort this and the equipment stuff out, before making suggestions for new implementations.
While I don't agree with his way of putting it, I do agree that ALL capships need to be put in guard systems.. Every last one. Zoner Jugg and Destroyer should both be on Livadia. All RH caps need to be in Braunschweig, and so on. And the good ships need to be on main bases, with medium ones on normal bases. Like Eagle on Freeport 9/XV/Planet Gran Canaria. Sabre on Malta. Titan on Crete. Wrath on Planet New Berlin or a battleship.
Also, transports should be in shipyards or major trade centers. Why exactly is the Border World Transport on Gas Miner Naha?! It should be on Helgoland, that has shipyard docks!
I remember I met Jeanette... Tryed to RP with her a bit (Was our RP event in Omegas..)... Not much success... Wondered how could she get a zoner dessie...
Perhaps all players who are too good for fighter battles(1+ hour) should fly capships.. And we are ok:D
Seriously now: capships should be harder to obtain, not only trading few days and then acting like a big boss in a big sip. And I also dont like people buyng Zoner (and IMG) ships like they were civilian...
@ Dab: On Helgoland it would be scrapped, not build.:laugh:
The BW transport could be sold on Corfu or FP 9 indeed, while the Taiidan (GMG) ships on BS Regensburg (Munich) should be moved to Naha. Another location could be Kurile in Sigma 17, while the IMG GB has to be removed from there.
' Wrote:You can have the Juggy, Dab. Welcome to it.
But I will be requesting both the Eagle and the Fearless for Baffin. Shasta is a Guard Base, ya know.. or have you been by to visit lately?
I said Livadia because its the Zoner's only shipyard. Eagle I'd be fine with being there. Though Shasta should have at least 1 shipyard dock attached to it if you want to put the Fearless there. The Fearless would be sold where it was made, so Shasta should be able to make it. Jugg should stay in Livadia though, as its our only full-blow shipyard with large (2x) shipyard docks capable of building it.
@AoM; Give the ALG a chance to redeem themselves.:)
And I do like your idea of moving the BW transport to the Omicrons. The Corsairs and Outcasts are the ones who will use it the most, and it needs to be somewhere where they can both buy it as well.. Its a Border World ship, same as the Outcasts use, so I have no idea why the GMG would have access to it, let alone sell it, when that location forbids the smugglers who actually use it from buying it..
This will be a lot of work to pull-off but its needed more then a battleship license. Ive been wondering and looking where you could find some ships... but for some reason huge ships are sold on the smallest bases... Its not that i dont mind buying a Royal Liner on a Battleship, but how is that Battleship going to produce it? We all know ships sold on bases where you end up scratching the back of our heads, but somehow it takes a whole lot of time, before someone is going to blow whistles about it. All ship selling locations should be worked out, but just as important is the asignment of all ships to there True Faction.
"War. War never changes. Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage."
Quote:The BW transport could be sold on Corfu or FP 9 indeed, while the Taiidan (GMG) ships on BS Regensburg (Munich) should be moved to Naha. Another location could be Kurile in Sigma 17, while the IMG GB has to be removed from there.
What the hell is a GMG ship doing on a Rhienland base anyway!? I thought they were enemies...
EDIT: Forgot to mention, I think the Zoner Jugg should be given out by Admins only. Although, it wouldn't be possible to make more than one would it?
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