The short story is this: Today, I met with some Corsair Leadership in a skype chat channel.
One of them made a claim that the Harvester had not been seen in 3 years.I personally know that is not true.
A Corsair Leadership said: "fact of the matter is though, if you were doing so much defending of Crete over the last three years, don't you think some of us corsairs would have seen it?"
My Reply:
Good question. How about this. Go make a post on the Disco forums, asking all the Corsair players to PM you...a reply to this question:
Hola Corsairs. Have any of the corsair Brethren see or fought along side any of the AI ships called Harvesters? If you have a good recommendation, please pm to your local Corsair Leadership.. If you have a bad review, please sent it as well."
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I am willing to bet, despite the fact that the Harvesters are no longer the big, huge faction they once were...that the action & deeds of the few remaining Toasters will speak for themselves.
Harvesters are programed to be Corsair Allies.
And said statement :
"fact of the matter is though, if you were doing so much defending of Crete over the last three years, don't you think some of us corsairs would have seen it?"
--Will be found untrue.
I remember harvesters with junker IFF messing around gamma 18 months or so back. They were okay with sairs, diplomacy-wise. I'm not sure about the reasoning for it, but I know it was like that.
*old faction leader*
jose asked me about this today in skype, but he was asking questions about that 'alliance' i was not able to answer. however, i remember them being okay with sairs.
I clearly have an image of a junker IFF AI ship mooring crete in my mind, like it was yesterday. mooring, not docking.
And Vlko was the leader of the Sails, aka, what the OPG became. So you know, the faction that started the so called alliance with the Harvesters. How close could that relationship have been?
true, zelot, but - and its a big stinky BUT - i was just a fledgling at that time and harvesters were never involved in sails roleplay. they were not even mentioned in the original faction proposal, so i have no idea what were OPG relations to the harvesters. i think it has to do something with gentle's late phantom, who was a penis and a brain linked with tubes or something similar.
Ok, before this goes any further ... The Harvesters, or the remnants of them will pick one ID or the other.
AI or Corsair.
AI ID means you cannot force your roleplay on anyone who does not agree. If the Corsairs do not want you
as allies, then they have that right.
If you go with the Corsair ID it means you are, and will act as Corsairs subject to their lore and everything
that goes with it.
Some say he is a proud member of: "The most paranoid group of people in the Community."
The issue will be put to the remaining Harvesters members and thoses wanting to get the Harvesters back together, as a vote:
So far, the point of my post was to get other Corsair players to say whether or not they had in game RP with the Harvesters and whether or not the Harvester have still be acting as allied units.--thus making the statement that: "fact of the matter is though, if you were doing so much defending of Crete over the last three years, don't you think some of us corsairs would have seen it?"
Either confirmed true or confirmed false.
Which brings us to Hoodlum's post.""Ok, before this goes any further ... The Harvesters, or the remnants of them will pick one ID or the other.
AI or Corsair.
AI ID means you cannot force your roleplay on anyone who does not agree. If the Corsairs do not want you as allies, then they have that right.
If you go with the Corsair ID it means you are, and will act as Corsairs subject to their lore and everything that goes with it.""
The matter will be brought forth to the few remaining Harvesters for a vote of which ID to go with.
If the Harvies choose to stick with AI, then that means that a few of the Corsair Leadership can slam the door of gammu in our face and disregard the in game RP time spent, and inclosing telling Us Harvesters that ' An Alliance will never happen. Period"
If Harvesters choices Corsair, then ALL Harvesters would have to be required to get rid of the AI ID, AI ships.
One person that I asked said this: "you're allowed to use the ID so long as you basically act like a corsair"
Which should be pretty easy for an "AI-RPG" Harvester--After all, we have mostly the same enemies: BH, Nomads, Outcasts.
As for going with the Corsair Lore part, I am not seeing that as a hard written rule disallowing role played AI characters prohibited from being other clans.
Well i certainly didn't see many of them playing while the ai id was in its pacifist stage. But there was ONE SOLITARY HARVESTER that would log in from time to time.
I think it would be fitting to see a remnant of them with corsair id's however with all the screwing around the AI rp has had? ... Dont think theyd fit in. AI factions have been having a rough bout of the inactives and you really cant blame one thing on that.
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