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Zoner bomber Kaichou II
Offline RedEclipse
05-12-2012, 05:52 PM,
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Well, Zoners have one if biggest shipline on this server. Always curious, why they started to produce their ships from capitals. Yeah, maybe it's make sense because in RP they are produce BW shipline. But as you see, nerf chart shows BW fighters isn't Zoner tech, that's for sale as Kingfisher. It started after Osprey realize.

After latest update of rules caps will become more usable, people start use them as pirate machines. So I think Zoners will needed a bomber, produced by theirselfs for their goals. I sure, government's won't see around their space Zoner caps. Although capitals convoy for a traders is really no sense.

I think Zoners may did the same way as was done with Whale. GMG shared the technology and Zoners did a new one, suitable for their needs Whale.

As a new model of Kaichou replacement was denied by GMG and many people(as told me Jinx). I was so impressed by new model for Kaichou, I really can't get why it's was denied. So I think this model can be used as Zoner bomber, as for name I'd suggest "Sapsan". As a new ship I think this awesome model have rights to be in mod.

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Offline Daedric
05-12-2012, 07:32 PM,
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From what I hear about Jinx's models, most of them weren't proper models. Posting an image on the forums a model does not make. Word was that he didn't bother to finish the models completely and people like AD had to finish them for him. While I rather enjoy many of Jinx's models, his half arsed approached to modeling is not something I think we need here. Our developers are already stretched.

As for Zoners getting another ship in their already huge line. No. Roc. Kaichou. Havoc. Warran. Plenty of choice right there. Your justification that caps can now pirate is made moot by the fact that the ZBT and the BWT, the two staple Zoner transports, both have counter measures to help in evading would be pirates.

To be perfectly honest, Zoners are one of the most unbalanced factions in this mod. This is why a large portion of the community can't stand the faction. It has everything you can ask for and yet many of the people who play it whine and ask for more. Instead be happy with what Zoners already have. You're damn lucky I'm not able to have my way regarding Zoners.

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Offline dodike
05-12-2012, 07:36 PM,
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I wouldn't mind to see a Zoner-GMG model that is on open market for everybody. Assuming that model will be finished.
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Offline RedEclipse
05-12-2012, 07:53 PM,
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Well, Zoners have plenty stuff as many faction does. Some factions deserve it like Hessians some not. Wrong to judge from this point of view, it's a game.

I believe Jinx could finish this model if it's idea will be approved.

And about availability. Would work same as Whale. It's partially piece of GMG technology and Zoners won't harm relations with GMG.
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Offline Swallow
05-12-2012, 09:19 PM,
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hands away from kaichou!
submit it as new model but DO NOT even think to replace the current one

FL MOD(EL)MAKING: TOOLS, RESOURCES, TUTORIALS AND MY SHIPS (OLD)

I am on discord: Roal-Yr#5994, I don't log on forum more than a few times a year.

I am not making ships for FL anymore, I am making my own space game instead:
https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
https://roal-yr.itch.io/gdtlancer
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Offline SparkyRailgun
05-12-2012, 09:41 PM,
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' Wrote:hands away from kaichou!
submit it as new model but DO NOT even think to replace the current one

You obviously didn't even bother to read the OP.


As for the model, it certainly looks Zoner.
But then again so does every other Jinx makes.

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Offline Swallow
05-12-2012, 09:55 PM,
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' Wrote:You obviously didn't even bother to read the OP.
As for the model, it certainly looks Zoner.
But then again so does every other Jinx makes.
I bothered, but it seems like I misunderstood the main point. I calmed down

FL MOD(EL)MAKING: TOOLS, RESOURCES, TUTORIALS AND MY SHIPS (OLD)

I am on discord: Roal-Yr#5994, I don't log on forum more than a few times a year.

I am not making ships for FL anymore, I am making my own space game instead:
https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
https://roal-yr.itch.io/gdtlancer
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5HQB...cdH45LZgjj
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Offline RedEclipse
05-12-2012, 11:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-12-2012, 11:16 PM by RedEclipse.)
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Oh, thats what I talking about!:DNo worries. It's will be Zoner, if will be.

Yeah and indeed, I'd love this model because looks so zonerish.

ADD:

Actually, I don't agree with last part. Awesomeness is not only zoner style.
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Offline Echo 7-7
05-12-2012, 11:43 PM,
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Please, no more Zoner ships, and no more Jinx ships.

There was a sig here, once.
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Offline Stygian
05-13-2012, 12:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-13-2012, 12:07 AM by Stygian.)
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Deadric hit the nail on the head there.

Edit: Half asleep post was half asleep. xD

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