Quote:maybe you guys like to type, but not me, i have a hard enough time trying to learn ROFL, LOL, and all the other word briefs on the internet, i dont neet to stress myself with typing OOC before every sentence i want to type. i think if you guys exsorcise a little common sense you guys can figure out RP from normal chatting.
Or maybe you can exercise a little common sense and figure out that you shouldn't be chatting out of character on a roleplaying server.
Quote:what if the player doesnt speak or understand english but wants to play, so he's not allowed to play? huh?
Considering that an important part of any online game is making sure everyone understands each other... I think the rule makes perfect sense.
Quote:huh? you can multifaction as long as its not on the same charachter, how do you multifaction with one charachter, am i the only one who doesnt understand this rule
I have two ships, ALS)Blake.Sullivan and ALS)Blake.Sullivan-B. Same character registered twice, so he can have his fighter and his bomber. Make sense now?
Quote:another words if we play here we arent human beings but your robots sworn to play the way YOU want and not free to set any RP of our own, and not to socialize on the side. thats what im getting out of that statement
You're free to socialize on the side - OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC CHAT. I do it all the time, two of my friends play here; I have a friendly chat with them in private messages and stay in character publicly.
Quote:WHAT????? are you people from this planet? what ifyou just want to get your shelds back up in the fight?? i mean really, there is a fine line between tactics and fleeing, this just walls it up right here. and a four hour time limit to return? gimmie a break. what am i suppose to do while i wait read a book?
Try your tab key. That's not cruising, and if you don't suck then it'll work to let you get your shields back in most fighters.
Quote:what if that player sucks and expended all 5 chars on his account, so he's not allowed to play anymore?
First, that much fighting doesn't happen here in my experience. Secondly, Freelancer Account Manager. Sticky thread in the Freelancer forum a little further down. Lets you have multiple accounts.
Quote:when i used to play here the badges you bought for your ships would fall off mounted or no. and then you had to spend another million or so just to re-aquire them, also some of them were so obscenely priced that sometimes you couldnt afford them if the server police told you to buy it.
They're mountable objects that don't fall off, no idea what the hell you're talking about here. I've never had to replace any of my IDs, and I assure you, I get shot down quite often.
You know what, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am not going to go down the list and comment point by point, but it seems like the rules you comment on are rules that make it harder to go from 1 PVP fight to another. You say what happens if you have five chars and they all get beaten in 4 hours, well, I would be luck to have 5 PVP fights in 4 hours. You want to fight and thats great, but you are right, this is not the server for you, but instead of accepting that, you come here and bash it. Well I am here to tell you, there are lots of people who like and play this server, and enjoy the experience the rules allow them to have, instead of having to fight the same damn player who decides to keep coming back after you kill him over and over, ruining your ROLEPLAY experience. The other remark I want to address is about this being an English language server. WTF, do you realize the chaos that would ensue if we didn't have 1 language used on this server. It might not be a problem if all you want to do fight with no RP to it, not even talking to the other person, but in terms of RP, it is almost imposable if the people can't understand each other. Your entire post shows that you really only want to fight, and there is nothing wrong with that, but this is not the server for that. There are lots of servers out there if you just want PVP, but this server is for people that feel the PVP is less important then the character they are developing, and the story they are telling, win or lose. So this server is not for you, why are you mad about it? Thats what I don't understand, you feel the need to rant about what you don't like about the server, instead of finding a server that is for you. And lastly, the 4 hour rule was decided by the community, by a vote, so that is what WE want, it is not forced on us. If you don't feel this community is right for you, I wish you luck in finding one that is right for you.
' Wrote:i havent been here in about 1-2 years but some of my buds were visiting your server and i just wanted to see if anything changed. i guess not. well lets get to it.
the reasons i dont play lets start here
rule 3 3.3 All messages in chat must be in understandable English, unless the chat is private and both members know the language being used.
what if the player doesnt speak or understand english but wants to play, so he's not allowed to play? huh? Well, we can't cater to everyone. Not everyone can be satisfied. Besides, successful communication is necessary for RP.
3.4 Out-of-character (OOC) chat should not be used for system chat. Using out-of character in roleplaying chat should be marked with "OOC".
maybe you guys like to type, but not me, i have a hard enough time trying to learn ROFL, LOL, and all the other word briefs on the internet, i dont neet to stress myself with typing OOC before every sentence i want to type. i think if you guys exsorcise a little common sense you guys can figure out RP from normal chatting. Its excessively annoying and would essentially make RP "optional" which, from general player consensus, has been decided as the way this server will be run. 100% RP.
3.6 Character name on server should not consist of random symbols or contain any abusive content. Remember that Discovery is a role-playing server; choose your name accordingly. Sanction: changing the name if character owner specifies the new name, or character deletion with no refund.
i hope you guys consider some of those korean keyboards that have keys that most games or american computers dont understand. Then they'll be deleted. Its for server stability. We can only satisfy so many.
3.7 Using long character names (25+ symbols) is not allowed. Sanction: character deletion with no refund.
this is the one i love, can freelancer even allow a 25 charachter name? not to my knowlege, so why is this even a rule? Character names can be modified to be longer, however only through admin-intervention or player hacking.
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4. Faction Rules
4.1 The same character is not allowed to join more than 1 faction. Characters from one account can join different factions freely, unless faction policy specifies another rule for this, but no more than 2 system-owning factions at one time.
huh? you can multifaction as long as its not on the same charachter, how do you multifaction with one charachter, am i the only one who doesnt understand this rule A while back people had tags like [C][RM][AW]Cooldude007.
4.6 Remember that Discovery is a roleplaying server. Factions and faction members (just like all other players) are obliged to act in the way their reputation and status require. Factions are expected to set an example in role-play.
4.8 Sanctions for violating faction rules, including out-of-RP behaviour, may be applied to the whole faction as well as a certain player. This may happen if a large part of the faction is violating the rules specified, and if the leader(s) of the faction endorse the violations committed by players, ignore the warnings and do not attempt to improve the situation, or violate rules themselves. Sanctions for a faction include credit/equipment fine and placing inside the prison system for all characters or part of characters belonging to a faction.
another words if we play here we arent human beings but your robots sworn to play the way YOU want and not free to set any RP of our own, and not to socialize on the side. thats what im getting out of that statement RP is hardly restricted here, much less than Freeworlds, at least the one I was on for a bit. All it says is that if you're a police guy, you don't go around killing traders for no reason.
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this is where i think it gets really ridicoulous
5. General PvP Rules
5.6 If a player engages cruise engine or docks during a PvP fight, this player is considered fleeing. The fleeing player must leave and may not re-enter the system where the fight took place with any of the characters on his/her account(s) while the enemy (player or players involved in the fight) remains in the system, but no more than 4 hours.
WHAT????? are you people from this planet? what ifyou just want to get your shelds back up in the fight?? i mean really, there is a fine line between tactics and fleeing, this just walls it up right here. and a four hour time limit to return? gimmie a break. what am i suppose to do while i wait read a book?
5.7 A player who was killed in a PvP fight must not enter the system where the fight took place with any of the characters on his/her account(s) while the enemy (player or players involved in the fight) remains in the system, but no more than 4 hours.
there's that 4 hours again, so let me get this strait im a trader, and i find this sweet route to this system that a pirat happens to be sitting in, and instead of challenging him by trying to find a diff way in after i died from the first attempt, i have to sit like a lump for 4 hours, and find a diff trade route? screw you guys If the player respawns in the same system, he/she must leave the system without engaging. Other players are not allowed to attack one who is leaving.
5.8 A player who was killed in a PvP fight must not re-engage the enemy (player or players involved in the death) with any of the characters on his/her account(s) for 4 hours.
you know i have a better solution for you guys on this rule, and ill take an excerpt from my current mod, freeworlds, try this, when a player dies in a fight he is not allowed to return to the fight untill the players call all clear hence when the fight is done, that means if he is on a base where the fight happens to be, he must either wait at the base and play cards or switch to another char and do something else. banning the player from the entire system is way to extreme. some systems are huge.
5.9 After a death in a PvP fight, players should switch to other characters (preferably with different role-playing status) for no less than 4 hours.
what if that player sucks and expended all 5 chars on his account, so he's not allowed to play anymore? Then he can move to the NEXT system over. If he dies in New York, he can go to California... Besides, getting killed by players 5 times in four hours? ... That's almost unheard of, except in training. This was to make it a little easier for people who have to defend places. For example, the Rheinland Military against Unioners. Is it really fair for the Unioners to attack and die, only to come back 15 minutes later with a group of extra Bundschuh and Hessians? Then, if they lose again... to have it happen all over again? Hey, did we mention that some people actually wanted it to be 24 hours?
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even more rediculous rules
6. ID and role-playing engagement rules <snip>
im not gonna comment on each section in this area cause i think its probably the worst part of the mod.
i want to find the original guy who invented this freaking badge system on this mod, WTS, and DS9 mod and just slap him untill my hand is sooo red it would fall off. That would be the guy who made the mod...
when i used to play here the badges you bought for your ships would fall off mounted or no. and then you had to spend another million or so just to re-aquire them, also some of them were so obscenely priced that sometimes you couldnt afford them if the server police told you to buy it. I don't know how you mounted them... Try the equipment dealer? They've always worked JUST FINE on this mod. They replace the scanner in this mod. P.S. THERE ARE NO SERVER POLICE ON THIS SERVER. NEVER HAVE BEEN.
let me tell you how we do it on freeworlds (we don't like Freeworlds too much, here), and its worked real well for about 4 years. you want to play, you make a CIV, and you have a [CIV] tag, if you want in a faction, a faction leader or someone with faction moderators access on the forums adds you to the memberlist. and you make your charachters with there tags, in our case its starwars like [IMP] [NR] etc. get it? no badges, no need for scanning ships for no reason, you see that there the enemy and attackthem, if your looking for smugglers then you scan there cargo. none of this "halt! who goes there" crap. How is that any better? That makes it impossible for someone to do their own thing as a solo pirate, etc. Especially if you limit the "CIV" ships to the worst ones in the mod.
im sorry to rag on you guys so bad for this but im sorry your server rules are so stiff and rigid it makes it completely ..... un fun to play, you constantly have to look over your shoulder and make sure your not breaking some silly rule that ruins the original art of the game, So... Completely eliminated the individual from the game is better? You can either fly as a CIV and do nothing or join a faction and do exactly what they want? Also, can you create a brand new fresh idea in Freeworlds? As I remember, I played there for a number of weeks before deciding to start a small Merc group with me a friend of mine. No more than five of us... We didn't ask for good ships and we got denied because... What was it? "We already have mercenaries. Join them." We didn't want to, so we left the mod and server silently.
the game is called freelancer, not ShackledPrisonerLancer Freeworlds servers, as far as I can tell, have ALWAYS been MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE.
just some food for thought..
if you guys delete this post because you feel my opinion isnt worth a hill of beans, then it proves my point that you all have no room for peoples individuality and freethought. just an fyi
P.S. You're very close-minded... And we do advocate Freedom of speech on these forums, at least as best we can without personally insulting people (hopefully). We don't delete posts often... Unless they are really bad.
The rules work very well here and although they might seam a bit too constrictive at times, I am happy with them.
But yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and yours is most welcome. However, you are one of the few who doesn't like the rules a whole lot, most of us here do. I doubt there will be radical changes, if any at all.
Well in any community the rules are there to ensure it is fair for everyone.
while not all of the rules are perfect, as a community they will be improved.
From what I see you disagree with most of the rules here, I see at least 150 people on the server
(on weekends) who agree and play with the above rules.
Besides, if you want to criticise, then at least you could give suggestions, instead of just criticism about the
rule or just saying plain that you don't like it.
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If you ain't happy, take the door, it is right in front of you, but make sure you don't break your toe in it...
Rules have been made by admins/players at the beginning and keep getting updated, modified, etc. Situation here will never change, and I'm happy with it.
Cushion, this is Discovery, not Freeworlds, the rules function just fine and trust me, they prevent all the hateing and flameing that was going on on Freewrolds.
Rule with most violations: Server Rule 6.6 (look it up!!!
The rules are here for one main reason... to enhance and stabilize everyone's experience who plays here. I've been here for about 7 months now. I've seen some minor changes and all was for the better. Almost everyone who plays here on a regular basis does their best to play by the rules to better their experience here. This is an RP server, the people who don't want to RP, break the rules, PvP whore, and basically not care about what this server stands for are not welcome here (and usually don't last long).
It's an English speaking server for a reason. If you want to speak German, Spanish, etc... take it to private chat with your buddy. Simple. Why would you spend time on a server that doesn't speak a language you're fluent in??
How can you interact with other players and get in the spirit of RP if people are chatting in four different languages in the same system?? That would be common sense to me.
I'm here because I love to RP. Most of the veterans here I believe are here for the same reason. If I want to mercilessly kill people for no apparent reason, I'd just go to another server that tolerates that. Simple.
It seems obvious to me you dislike the way we play here. The solution is a simple one. Look for another server more suited to your likes.
Would you play a sport on a team that has a play style you hated? Would you go to the movies and see a show you knew you wouldn't like? I think not.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to rag on you or put you down.
I'm just trying to figure out why someone with obvious distaste of our server and the way we play would go through all the trouble of pointing out why they think our rules suck.
200 people playing online here at the same time must mean we've done something right.
Just my 2 cents... take it with as many grains of salt as you wish.
You ask me why Im weary, why I cant speak to you.
You blame me for my silence, say Its time I changed and grew.
But the war's still going on dear, and theres no end that I know...
And I cant say if were ever...
I cant say if were ever gonna be free.
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