Disappointed

[BloodTree]

I am very disappointed of community of RP players.

When I posted on forum that that rules need change I get 2 posts locked and why?

Each time when someone will flame your post you get locked it? Is it right?
Maybe just delete thous replay witch are off topic or edit.

In game I see that more and more players don`t play by server rules!
There are even gank with random players like pirate and nomads in same team hunting zoner ships and [Angel] Is says it`s oki to do that.
I did not find any rule that says that you can do what ever you want If you act like RP.

How exactly server rules work if players doing RP stuff simply ignore them?

I get so much trolled posts on this forum.

I am not the bad guy here I just want make the point. What the point of server rules If players doing RP stuff don`t play by them?

I more and more find players In game that think same that thous hard core RP players are sick and anti-social.

I am 100% sure next replay will be flamed against me and this post will be locked after few days. And why?

I don`t get it If I`m one of thous who are wrong. Why still can find who think same as me?

I can not say anything good about what I can see of forum.
There like every one hate each other and gnaw each other as best he can.

If anyone have something against me feel free to tell it In PM!

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Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth.

[Sarawr!?]

There are many people who violate the server rules, yes, that is true.

However, for all the people violating rules, there are just as many people either afraid or otherwise unwilling to file sanction reports for those violations, and I get that, people don't want to spend their time filing reports...but if nobody does it, the violations will continue, the admin team can only catch so many violators at a time, even with people filing reports.

We need more people who're willing to file a report when they see a clear violation.

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[Lonely Werewolf]

When I posted on forum that that rules need change I get 2 posts locked and why?

Each time when someone will flame your post you get locked it? Is it right?
Maybe just delete thous replay witch are off topic or edit.

It wasn't just people flaming your posts, if remember right it pretty much went both ways. I for one did my best to expain things in a calm and clear manner, but I can't speak for my peers.

Also I remember you asking yourself for the threads to be locked on several occassions, so I don't think you can complain that they eventually did. As for why they were locked, all the questions had been answered several times, and in my eyes all that was left was hot headed posts from various people.

In game I see that more and more players don`t play by server rules!
There are even gank with random players like pirate and nomads in same team hunting zoner ships and [Angel] Is says it`s oki to do that.
I did not find any rule that says that you can do what ever you want If you act like RP.

How exactly server rules work if players doing RP stuff simply ignore them?

If you feel a rule has been broken, then screen it and report it. As for ganking, that's a part of life in Disco, when I go pirating I guarentee you that I'll get ganked 50% of the time.

I get so much trolled posts on this forum.

I am not the bad guy here I just want make the point. What the point of server rules If players doing RP stuff don`t play by them?

It's fine to go ahead and make a point, but it's how you made it that annoyed people. You wouldn't listen to what people were saying in their replies, we'd explain stuff and you'd not make a rebuttal, but then use the debunked logic or argument a few posts later. Repeating yourself over gets tiring. If people didn't explain clearly then I can understand, but speaking for myself I tried to make it as understandable as possible.

I have no problem in engaging in these discussions as long as they are mature, you can pm me or chat to me on skype about these sort of debates anytime if you have the urge. Naturally I don't claim to know all the answers but I'll do my best.

As for you being trolled, I think some of the people debating with you felt the same way. Trying to keep it civil and logical works best in my opinion.

I more and more find players In game that think same that thous hard core RP players are sick and anti-social.

In my experience most "Hard core RP players" are good natured, they put a lot of effort into their RP and are trying. Thats what this server is about. But sure they could get mad if you ruin their RP I guess, I ve seen a few examples of that before. If you make an effort to get involved and have some RP, 95% will happliy include you.

I am 100% sure next replay will be flamed against me and this post will be locked after few days. And why?

Well I sure hope I'm not flaming! As for getting locked, well that depends on the manner of this thread. As I said before, if it stays civil and no-one screams for it getting locked then it should remain open.

I don`t get it If I`m one of thous who are wrong. Why still can find who think same as me?

I can not say anything good about what I can see of forum.
There like every one hate each other and gnaw each other as best he can.

As for who's wrong and who's right, we all have different opinions, but do remember that many of the players you were talking with have been here a long time and have a much better understanding of how this community works and why it works that way. When you came shouting for rule changes, having just joined and not posted before (so therefore not having taken part in previous discussions) you could see how we think it'd be a good idea for you to listen more as well.

As for hate everywhere, as I said before, put effort into making it civil and having a meaningful discussion, not acting as though you are infallible and then I'm sure it'll be fine. The server is not full of hate, if thats all you see then perhaps that is all you are contributing? (Don't read into that too much, was more philosophical)

EDIT: Aw I took so long to write Lolrawr got there first
EDIT x2: Oh come on man, what's the point of that poll? Seriously? Yes some people break rules, you can see that in the Sanctions Thread, and many play by the rules ALL the time. This is partly what frustrates people, it's supposed to be a serious thread, but that poll is useless, it should be more specific as it means nothing.

[Anaximander]

We need more people who're willing to file a report when they see a clear violation.

I'd be cautious with that approach. Historically there are some pretty bad examples of what damage it does to communities when common folk take it upon themselves to survey and police other common folk.

IMO players should only report offences if they know it is a clear violation of server rules, and they feel bothered enough by said violation to actually file a report, while Admins should show a greater in-game presence.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Why did your posts get locked?

Probably because you not only wanted to change the rules to fit your play style - which you blatantly stated was PvP and not RP - but because you were also completely and entirely argumentative and unwilling to actually listen to what other people were saying.

You yourself are the one who stated that you found RP to be boring and you didn't like it. So why would anyone take you seriously?

Having said that - and as a former admin, I agree with Sarah - if you do see someone violating SERVER rules, please take the screenshots (with appropriate time stamps - make sure you've turned the chat time on before you play) and submit the report. The only way that improvement regarding people breaking the rules can happen is if adequate and legitimate reports are filed.

Realize also that the admins only enforce SERVER rules - not house laws. So while it's perfectly acceptable under server rules for you to take your Zoner Juggy into New York, it's against HOUSE laws for him to be there and the LN will shoot you. And since that's part of valid RP - they are NOT violating any server rules when they kill you.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[JayDee Kasane]

BloodTree, you just need to calm down abit. There is plenty of people who play unfair, or out of rules or just complete retards who attacks their own allies just cuz they red to em ( ye, Hessian indies, I remembree you fire at my SCRA )
file a report if you see violation. dont expect people to be fair and good to you. internet is some place where you get people acting like retarted children just because you cant go and kick their ass in real life. be more then that.
and I agree on one point - when you get thread locked, Admins/Mods isnt right at this, they should ban people who made em to lock thread. or that is just ignoring of trolls and lolwuts, which I dont approve.

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[dodike]

Nomads can ally with anyone in RP. Even the BAF if nomads wanted.

[Veygaar]

I think, Blood Tree, that your problem is that you do not fully understand the factions/rules/and method of Role Play that this game entails.

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Veygaar for Admin Moderator 2013!!!

[BloodTree]

Nomads can ally with anyone in RP. Even the BAF if nomads wanted.

I did not find that in server rules.
Maybe you read wrong ones.
If I will enter liberty space with my BS doing RP. I don`t think other will find that good and will let me do it.
The most important thing is stick to basic rules first.

Even if I don`t like some of server rules I still play by them!

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Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth.

[Haste]

By "Pirate" I assume you mean the Samarran Raiders? They roleplay having some infectees / treating Nomads as something 'divine'. It's not far-fetched for Nomads to ally with them at all.

Nomads have no restrictions whatsoever in who they ally with because of situations like these. If another, non-nomad player wishes to, a Nomad could 'manipulate' them into allying and shooting other people.

Judging from your post, you're complaining that you were one of the Zoners farming Nomads and you got shot at by Nomads and allies because of it.