(06-03-2019, 06:10 PM)Wildkins Wrote: [snip]
I was gonna stay out of all this until the hot takes about tech-cells and things we have and haven't done came up.
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About your point on LSF challenger use, and your gunboat.
I do not see how the two compare, one is a request for snubs, by an official faction, through a well written RP post, and approved by the BAF HC in a vote. Here is the thread.
Yes, you said you were going to shoot Unioners/Harmony with them, but you provided reasonable justification - preventing a collapse of Liberty in the south and allowing LN forces to concentrate on Gallia. The RP behind the gunboat I do not know, but I am sure it was requested in advance, and gunboats are not battleships.
Compared to this, we have a Dunkirk, of which I doubt there are more than 50 (and likely a lot less), all engaged in cataclysmic battle against Gallia, and we have one going to fight the Unioners. We received no communication, we gave no approval. I can't see how this compares to your own, reasonable request. There are literally thousands of snub craft flying around houses, we can afford to let a few of them go.
(06-03-2019, 06:44 PM)Spectre Wrote: [Snip]
As far as I'm aware, that request was ignored by the BAF|. There were plenty of LABCs in use during the Aland crisis, so this argument about using them against the wishes of the manufacturer is moot.
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We ignored the 5th| inrp yes, but we did nevertheless attempt to restrict use of LN capships, the only ships present were the LLBC, which had just been released to us - some see it as a Bretonian ship - which is highly debatable. Again though, we are talking about ships that were given InRP to Bretonia, and we got complaints inRP which we replied to. The Dunkirk was never given to Kalh in the first place, so he has no RP backing by BAF to begin with. Can you see where the lines are being blurred about inrp and oorp use? The Aland situation of LN cap ship use was handled inRP.
If it is the desire of those posting here, it is quite easy for us to go against Kalh inRP on this, we tried - as Kalh is a long standing member of the community and not a random - to communicate. I trust there won't be complaints when the FR5 and kill-on-sight order is placed.
Markam Wrote:Compared to this, we have a Dunkirk, of which I doubt there are more than 50 (and likely a lot less), all engaged in cataclysmic battle against Gallia, and we have one going to fight the Unioners. We received no communication, we gave no approval. I can't see how this compares to your own, reasonable request. There are literally thousands of snub craft flying around houses, we can afford to let a few of them go.
Can we close out the Gallia war and then, inRP have a Liberty-Bretonia War get sparked by Bretonia trying to reclaim their ships / tech from Liberty while wanting to keep Liberty ships / tech to aid in keeping Gallic forces contained?
(06-04-2019, 02:30 AM)Markam Wrote: If it is the desire of those posting here, it is quite easy for us to go against Kalh inRP on this, we tried - as Kalh is a long standing member of the community and not a random - to communicate. I trust there won't be complaints when the FR5 and kill-on-sight order is placed.
I honestly want to keep being passive here, but for this it's just not possible.
Bretonia invaded '49 and took a planet from staunch neutralists. It was not well received.
Bretonia invaded '3 and took a shipyard from staunch independents. It was also not well received.
Please explain to me how you expect an FR5 and a kill order on an active service Liberty Navy warship to go, a warship that I will remind you is actively serving in Cortez alongside ships of the BAF| in fighting during Operation Vanguard. Bretonia's PR is already absolute trash after all the abrupt imperialism and rash decision making. Add in that from what I've seen Kalh has done a fairly remarkable job trying to making his ship work with the lore, even going so far as taking the ship and aging it to the level of the Hood.
I get that you people may not like folks using your ships. I understand it 100%. I still have an issue with certain IDs' tech cells, but from what I'm looking at it seems like you guys are taking this all far too personally. I'd recommend you all have some tea, maybe a crumpet, and calm your jets.
(06-04-2019, 02:30 AM)Markam Wrote: If it is the desire of those posting here, it is quite easy for us to go against Kalh inRP on this, we tried - as Kalh is a long standing member of the community and not a random - to communicate. I trust there won't be complaints when the FR5 and kill-on-sight order is placed.
Try it. See if you get to keep those nice Lend-Lease Battlecruisers.